I don't mean "we" as in FRIAM, I mean "we" as in nations.   A benefit of 
capturing knowledge with LLMs, or similar technology, is that people wouldn't 
need to be educated about the same material over and over, especially if these 
systems are integrated into our neural systems.  Why not have individuals 
inherit a common database so that their lives can be spent on differentiated 
activities?   There's so little that tie together individuals besides their 
fears and superstitions.  When I see chatGPT emit passable conversations like 
this, it seems kind of absurd to waste years of a young person's time covering 
the same old ground.  (Actually, it already seems that way to me.) Countries 
like Israel and Greece have mandatory military service.  Some believe this 
instills in them values greater than themselves.  In this case of the Borg, 
care of the collective is care of the self and vice versa.  The common practice 
in the open source LLM community of fine tuning pre-trained LLMs is so much 
more efficient than what humans do to educate.
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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Jochen Fromm 
<j...@cas-group.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 3:17 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

Discussions with large language models are new. But you are right, we had 
discussions of similar topics before. Maybe I was hoping I could inspire Nick 
and/or Eric to write a summary of their ideas and what we have discussed before 
( such as the solution to the hard problem of consciousness, the nature of 
subjective experience and what it has to do with path dependence, complexity 
science and James' radical empiricism ).

-J.


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From: Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com>
Date: 6/4/23 9:54 PM (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism


The conclusion I draw is that these conversations have all occurred before.  So 
I wonder, why have them?



From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 10:44 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism



ChatGPT now allows sharing conversations. I've asked it about William James 
book "Essays in Radical Empiricism"

https://chat.openai.com/share/375aef4e-a8d6-467e-8061-bd85b341c46b



-J.


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