Good question. Lorenz is one of the founders of chaos theory which became
popular 30 years ago when the first Jurassic Park movie was shown in the
cinemas. Interestingly Lorenz developed the equations that are named after him
as "a simplified mathematical model for atmospheric
convection"...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_system..and yet as far as I
know we do not use strange attractors or chaos theory to describe the weather.
This article says the three 3 dimensions x, y, and z might represent
temperature, humidity and pressure but I doubt that actual predictions are
really made by such simple systems.
https://medium.com/geekculture/lorenz-attractor-weather-forecast-explained-93703ad0ec6The
weather in the news is usually explained in terms of satellite images or by
large scale phenomena like cold fronts and warm fronts, high-pressure areas and
low-pressure areas, and simple swirls of clouds around these low-pressure
areas. I have never heard in the news that it is going to rain tomorrow because
the attractor a in model b predicts c. Are our models too simple or is reality
too complex? -J.
-------- Original message --------From: glen <[email protected]> Date:
5/29/25 5:26 PM (GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The
entropy of thought Why isn't Lorenz in there somewhere? Seems like an obvious
candidate.On 5/29/25 8:13 AM, steve smith wrote:> >> < The interesting question
is where exactly does the deterministic system turn into something
nondeterministic, and how?>>>>> It doesn’t. A deterministic system is a
deterministic system.>>> who might have first made the distinction :
"deterministic but not pre-stateable"?> > George offered:> > Year
Thinker Conceptual Expression> 1931 Kurt Gödel Incompleteness:
truths not derivable> 1936 Alan Turing Halting problem: uncomputable
predictions> 1970s Heinz von Foerster Second-order cybernetics:
unknowability of future> 1991 Robert Rosen Closure to efficient
causation; entailment limits> 1993 Stuart Kauffman Adjacent
possible; unprestatable evolution> 2005 Gregory Chaitin
Incompressible but defined numbers (e.g., Ω)> -- ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ
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