What is "EPR"? What is the attraction to acronyms about? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Jun 8, 2025, 11:38 PM Pieter Steenekamp <[email protected]> wrote: > Seth Lloyd’s Turing test for free will ( > https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/lloyd/Turing_Test.pdf) > is to consciousness what EPR was to quantum physics: a challenge to the > theory's completeness. EPR said quantum weirdness must hide something > deeper; Bell said “let's test that”—and nature replied, “nope, it’s weird > all the way down.” Nobel Prize, case closed. > > Lloyd asks: can we prove the mind is just machinery? His test says: build > a machine that behaves indistinguishably from a human and believes it has > free will. If you succeed—great. But failure proves nothing. > > Unlike Bell’s inequality, this test can only confirm, never deny. No > ghost-busting here. > > Until then? It’s speculation. The Standard Model explains almost > everything—except the quantum gremlins and how observation messes things > up. So maybe the mind still has an ace up its sleeve. Or a soul. Or a bug > in the code. > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / > ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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