I could barely begin to get traction on Smolin's "fecund universes" conception but I'm lost with white vs black holes and while my intuition wants to let in "time" (and causality?) as emergent properties,  I'm clearly lacking a great deal....  even with "George's" clever help.
Wild.  Thank you!  Good grief.

And mine too.

Eric


On Jun 10, 2025, at 12:03, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote:

    2.  Suppose the Big Bang the result of a unifying supermassive
    black hole.

Eric writes:
< I know “the result of” gives wiggle room, but I don’t think there will be an unpack that draws any association between these two phenomena.  >

Maybe not one but many? https://arxiv.org/abs/1309.1487

Yes, fine, over my head!
Marcus
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