Me too, inquiring minds want to know!   And a tangent of what is the Nick-registered anthropic principle?

Like the answer to any question Nick asks is "whatever Nick thinks the answer is, because he was the one who asked it"?

I'm guessing an inside "joke" between Nick and Jon from some conversation few if any were present for?


I’m sorry if I missed it, but did Nick include the “explanation” by which GPT “got” a number?

I could imagine a string of reasoning along the lines of:
— Nick intends to put this on FRIAM as a trick question
— Probably nobody would guess the number 1 as the next answer in the sequence, so that must be the number Nick wants
— ergo: the next number in the sequence is 1.  QED.

Was that the reasoning?

Eric




On Sep 11, 2025, at 0:57, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


Yes. Thank you. I was beginning to fear i had asked an unfair q.  Gpt got it on the first pass and then went on to say some interesting things about mathematics and semantics

i think questions of this type *are* implicitly "unfair" (whatever that means).   Without attributing malice to Nick, it is of the type of question known as "trick", either deliberately misleading gesturing in an arbitrary (mis)direction or simply deliberately obscuring/withholding context which might otherwisemake the question "obvious".

I'm not a big fan of the whole domain of "trick questions" generally up to and including highly respected (e.g. NYT) crossword puzzles, "Trivial Pursuit" or "Jeapordy".   This might seem odd as I *am* a fan of esoteric knowledge... perhaps just not using it as tool for "getting one over on others" (still not impugning Nick as having intended such).

I do appreciate some of the responses here, including Glen's meta-narrative and Nick's tease of "GPT nailed it right away!" though that does have the taste of shaming the rest of us (as if GPT IS one of us?) for not being as broadly trained on obscure facts and patterns as GPT is?

Grumbling about "trick questions" aside, Nick's claim of: "interesting things about mathematics and semantics" is compelling to me.   I can't help but want to know what that actually grounds out as?

I'm wondering if GPT calls this question out as a "category ambiguity" (/ambiguity/ being.a subcategory of /error/)?   I could dive in with GPT and discuss these sequences and everyone's guesses, etc... but despite my fascination with LLM-relations I don't want to compound my already over/mis-use and speed the paving of the planet with Data Centers beyond what I'm already doing with GPT. Like noodling (yet) better/more-subtle methods for using natural materials to build an a addition onto my home (just in time for a massive data-center blob to grow, looming over the horizon, inevitably sucking my humble adobe-abode into "the Matrix"?

- grumbleSteve


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