Hi all,

I am sorry that I have to reply in English but hope it will be clear for everyone.

This is Jeffy, Product Manager at DiviNetworks. There are couple of misunderstandings here so I'd like to give you fully transparent answers.

*1. Regarding illegal downloading or streaming*
All of our customers are large enterprises whose aim is not to download or stream anything but to see what prices their competitors are offering in different regions around the world. They access their competitors’ websites (and sometimes even their own) to gather, analyze and extract business-related public data. Such as a product price in Indonesia or a flight price in Paris.

We have a very strict KYC process when onboarding customers. We get their IDs, access IPs and other personal info. No individual is accepted in our network, only large corporations. What they are doing on the web is completely legit. They are trying to adapt to different market needs in different GEO locations by getting a transparent view of the web from the perspective of a local user.

Some of our customers: Ebay, WeWork, Agoda, Kiwi, Travelfusion, Flight Networks. Basically large e-commerce and travel companies. Apart from that, all streaming sites are banned from our network. We only allow web traffic from ports 80 and 443, nothing else.

More about use cases:
https://divinetworks.com/fr/nature-of-the-traffic/

*2. Regarding the reputation of your IPs*
Currently more than 110 ISPs worldwide (42 of them are US-based, 36 EU based) are using our service and generating extra revenue each month. We have ISP partners all over Europe, including Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, Denmark and France as well.

With some of them we are working over 2 years and no complaint or IP blacklist has been occurred so far. Why? Because we know what we are doing. We are taking many precautions and it's working. Even if 1 ISP would complain that their IPs were blacklisted, we'd have lost all of our ISP partners.

One of the important security precaution is:
We limit our customers to a single request per domain for each 5 minutes. This is in order to protect your IPs, to mimic a regular user's internet usage pattern and to prevent any flags.
You can see the rest here: https://divinetworks.com/fr/security/

In either case, I'd be happy to share the contact info of our references so you can ask them whatever you want.

*3. Regarding the revenue estimation*
We aim to use about 1GB per IP per month. This makes about 3-4 kbps per IP, which is very small and will not impact your network. We do not need any IP allocation. You can share used or unused IP ranges, allowing you to monetize your whole network and not just the unused one. We don't mind if you prefer to share only the unused ones though.

With a /22, you can generate about $220/month. Integration takes about 15 min with MikroTik, Cisco, Juniper or any other kind of router.

If you want to test, you are welcome to run a small test with a /24 only to see everything is fine. If all good, you can expand. If you are not fully satisfied, you can cut the GRE anytime. You always have the full control and you decide whether to continue or not.

For all FRnOG members:
*We offer a minimum revenue guarantee for all ISPs coming from FRnOG* so that you don't have to worry about the traffic amount and the revenue.

We are planning to attend the upcoming FRnOG event on March, so I'd be happy to meet you all there as well.
Please contact me if anything is not clear.

Best,

Jeffy Binhas
Divinetworks | Product Manager | Whatsapp: +972-54-5783550 | Skype: jeffyyb

On 28-January 9:10 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 05:01:54PM +0100,
  Spyou <r...@spyou.org> wrote
  a message of 46 lines which said:

En tant qu'opérateur, on n'est pas soumis à cette merdouille de loi
qui a crée hadopi, donc pas de soucis pour 99.9% des gens qui, ici,
seraient susceptibles de "prêter" un /24 ou plus gros.
Le principal risque n'est pas légal (je suis d'accord avec ton
analyse) mais de réputation des adresses IP. Il n'y a pas que la loi,
il y a aussi plein de cowboys qui te mettent dans une liste noire sans
réfléchir. La réputation est quelque chose en IPv4... Ce genre de
manips, c'est un coup à être mentionné dans un message de Guilmette
sur NANOG :-)


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