-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/30/2011 10:45 AM, adam wrote: > "User location determines Judicial Jurisdiction - how is that irrelevant?" > > Jurisdiction in the prosecution of such crimes, yes. In the investigation itself, no. Which seems to be where all the confusion is coming from. If you use a service in the US to commit a crime, and that service is ordered by a court to turn over information about you, they're legally obligated to do so. The content (e.g. your location) of that information isn't relevant in terms of the court order - it only becomes relevant in the prosecution of whatever crime you've committed. What "glow" is suggesting is that if the service provider determined the user's location to be somewhere in Russia, that they could then tell the court "Sorry, but the user is located in a place that this court doesn't have jurisdiction" - which not only wouldn't work, but would also cause them to personally face punishment for violating a court order. > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ Cause them to face punishment in what country? Wouldn't they have to extradite them? What if their extradition treaty didn't cover cybercrime, or they didn't have one with the US? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOhfCLAAoJEMtrOhzH8m1pi0QP/237DgGEhsjUlP4yiktpibpX 8McdJUJjveaJM6fe2UtlEA7mMkhGC2d4YlwIx4YwtEjFeNAis0EML+FR2Fc8uzIs FVibW4iBEO43vgP7oasUH56gv42zEodqyQzSVFYWJr67MU2SAthWVqkXz66HmZ+U ZInNU6GdN5xZ7rWnsw5BmFQ/DLwBq3S6kQV2i2G3oKx+Hi/QaDNRsL7BsYZGA1gU uGwP6RSDvvhvt9bRNbRZ9nam4GFs10hFe8eYJJws4X5Qimoek1NbAoU/4rBy/OY3 4dWc9OmGCLvpIKyKS/1ev/RLQWgZf60X6iQzMvGxPHz0oQ4aehjZ9Mo0vC7yQW8w P/rhfGUZo8j4Asnmm966fKYnxZSGUBtWngM8lV5UXLNawUpsLqAx8xWP+qWWMCBk SjIIC3tl6zgvjuShumv55M9muQyEviqInZdWR9rU3oEeFrPpq6auxwsMC9JtxGUV 7RYbmQLOy1b+QQxqfx0CzIqd2R+sjlqycCOhHl5SfrG1B6WQO88Ubpe55M3JW2En LZs4UUvLoQdWhVBmPYRKQT+LAghZEYAkEtBIuDOGM79hQatu6R08WRzHzTrnPd76 1fAlxIfu5Uc9jVeNCKcmalqbhcKoU3b2D8NH6EQH9m5+BklzDj3o45OEITw5odKN kUqOu3vrEG+wNXfq7lWu =ebyU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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