I think everyone including myself and Timothy respect and greatly appreciate Hal's work. Hell, I tell my professors and supervisors about him. He is one of my Software Engineering heroes even though I don't think he has been referred to as a Software Engineer. Any book he writes I am willing to pay for. No problem. I have been on the list to buy his Fusebox book since CF North, soon as I got back I signed up online. I think one of the main reasons I continue to program is CF is because of him and the rest of the community. I know I was asking much but my impression of him was that if it did not take long i.e. 5-15 minutes he would not mind doing it since he is already giving it away for free. I could be wrong. If I insulted you Hal in any way please accept my sincere apologies.
Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Hal Helms latest writing > FWIW, I have to agree, Steve. We've all grown far too accustomed to having a wealth of stuff given to us free of > charge. It's too bad, because it means a lot of good stuff will be set aside in favor of projects that pay. I know my > own progress on projects like Harness and Fuseminder have been back-burnered because I have to feed the family. > Sharing ideas is one thing, but expecting publications and training and software free of charge has gotten completely > out of hand. > > I'm sorry if anyone takes offense, but the expectation that someone who gives you something for free should be under > some onus to deliver it in the form you prefer so that you can consume it in a manner more suited to your own > desires, with no consideration in return, is utterly preposterous. I can just imagine someone saying, "Mr. Forta, I love > your 'Learn SQL in 21 Days' book, but I'd like mine in hardcover because it would lay open on my desk nicer than the > paperback. Oh, and would you please deliver it to my door at no cost to me? Thanks. And have Jeremy throw in a > copy of CFMX Enterprise for Solaris while you're at it." > > My 2 percent, > (an overestimated comparison of my contributions to Hal's) > - Jeff > > On 2 Jun 2002 at 21:06, Steve Nelson wrote: > > > ha! I wasn't talking about paying for the pdf. I was really talking about the > > 150 pages of information he wrote. Let's do some theoretical math... > > > > 150 pages in a book > > 3-4 hours per page, let's go on the lite side, say 3 hours per page > > Apparently Hal's information isn't that valuable, BUT minimum wage is still > > $5.15/hour > > > > So.... > > > > 150 pages * 3 hours/page * $5.15/hour = $2317.50 > > > > To hire Hal at $5.15/hour to write you this book would cost you a little over > > two grand. > > > > I'd say $10-15 is a steal! :-) > > > > Sorry for sounding so sarcastic, I just wanted to stick up for a good friend of > > mine. I'd do the same for any of you when you all write your Fusebox books > > (hint, hint) > > > > Steve Nelson > > > > Troy Murray wrote: > > > > > "Hal charged $10-15 for it" > > > > > > Just to print his HTML pages to PDF? I re-tract my motion then. I'll > > > do it myself and send you a copy John. > > > > > > -T > > > ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrFMa.bV0Kx9 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
