James, i was really just making a joke about Hal's new minimum wage rate. I tried
to convince him to raise his rate a little, but he keeps saying "Why do i need
more than $5.15/hour? At this rate, i'll have my Gremlin paid off in only 122
months!"

You do make a good point about what is worth paying for and what is not.

Steve Nelson

James Husum wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Steve, I can't argue with your basic premise (that Hal should get paid for
> his work and get proper credit) but I must disagree with your argument
> below. Writers do not get paid by the hour. If that were true I'd be a
> millionaire by now. At best, you might get paid by the word (usually for
> articles and short stories.) You often get a flat rate or royalties. If you
> ever open a publishing firm and are going to pay writers by the hour,
> please let me know. :-)
>
> This does raise the question though of how much is intellectual property
> worth. Much like everything else I guess it depends on what the buyer is
> willing to pay for it. I would love to take one of Hal's classes or get to
> more of the gatherings (like the recent CFNorth) but finances don't always
> permit it. But can I afford the books that have been put out on Fusebox?
> Yep. Have I bought any of them? Yep. Is this helping to support the Fusebox
> community at large and the authors in particular? I hope so.
>
> I'm very thankful for the Fusebox community that we have. I've learned a
> great many things from it, and have gotten some very useful tools from it.
> And when asked about the tools or the techniques I always give credit to
> the community. I'm very glad that Hal has put his writings on the web, and
> that you and he and others have all developed and released tools to the
> community for free. Would I pay for the Fusebox architecture itself? Maybe
> not. Would I pay for the tools released if the Fusebox architecture was
> free and the tools had a price? Maybe (depends on the tool and how useful
> it is. I bought a copy of Adalon since I find it very useful.)
>
> Anyway, just my $.02 worth of ramblings.
>
> At 09:06 PM 6/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >ha! I wasn't talking about paying for the pdf. I was really talking about the
> >150 pages of information he wrote. Let's do some theoretical math...
> >
> >150 pages in a book
> >3-4 hours per page, let's go on the lite side, say 3 hours per page
> >Apparently Hal's information isn't that valuable, BUT minimum wage is still
> >$5.15/hour
> >
> >So....
> >
> >150 pages * 3 hours/page * $5.15/hour = $2317.50
> >
> >To hire Hal at $5.15/hour to write you this book would cost you a little over
> >two grand.
> >
> >I'd say $10-15 is a steal! :-)
> >
> >Sorry for sounding so sarcastic, I just wanted to stick up for a good
> >friend of
> >mine. I'd do the same for any of you when you all write your Fusebox books
> >(hint, hint)
> >
> >Steve Nelson
> >
> >Troy Murray wrote:
> >
> > > "Hal charged $10-15 for it"
> > >
> > > Just to print his HTML pages to PDF?  I re-tract my motion then.  I'll
> > > do it myself and send you a copy John.
> > >
> > > -T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 4:18 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Hal Helms latest writing
> > >
> > > I third the motion IF AND ONLY IF Hal charged $10-15 for it.
> > >
> > > Steve Nelson
> > >
> > > Troy Murray wrote:
> > >
> > > > I second that motion (PDF).
> > > >
> > > > -T
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 3:05 PM
> > > > To: Fusebox List
> > > > Subject: Hal Helms latest writing
> > > >
> > > > I know beggars can't be choosers but is there anyway you can create a
> > > > pdf of your notes and/or create an index?  I just hate reading off the
> > >
> > > > screen :-). It is starting to get nice out and I enjoy reading on the
> > > > porch at night :-).  Can you blame me and no I don't have a laptop and
> > >
> > > > a wireless LAN which would solve my problem.
>
> James Husum
> BiznizWEB, Inc.
> http://www.biznizweb.com/
> http://www.scifitvfans.com/
> http://www.brainsludge.com/
>

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