Some people that I have dealt with think that the Photoshop PSD for the
first page and one interior page is a template.  That is what I meant.

> I'm not sure what the person means about programming only after having
> the first template. If they mean that they need more info (form fields,
> for example) before beginning a prototype, I would agree with
> them...cautiously. While such an approach may prove fruitful, it's often
> an excuse for not doing the really necessary thing.
>
> Steve Nelson says that "scope creep" is just a pejorative term for a
> process that's natural and necessary for users to go through. I agree
> completely. The prototype creates a safe environment for "scope creep"
> to occur. If the user could really specify exactly what was needed, we
> wouldn't need a prototype. We could go from requirements to code. This
> is exactly the process that has landed us into such hot water with high
> failure rates. In fact, this tendency is so built into programmers that
> I think for most of us, the only way we're willing to look at the world
> anew is by having enough pain from failures. At least, that was true for
> me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FLiP and Prototyping
>
>
> Thanks.  I agree with you totally now the hard part is not trying to
> convince the clients but to convince people I work with.  If I was to
> ever write a book on Software Engineering I would have to steal your
> quote Hal and put it on the cover of it:
>
> "If you don't have time to do it right, how will you find time to do it
> over?"
>
> I am creating Montreal's CFUG website right now and this is the first
> project I am using the FLiP process.  I have done the wireframe and now
> I am on to the prototype.  One of the people I work with who does the
> HTML integration always tells me I should program only after having the
> first template because coding HTML takes so long compared to
> programming.  What do you say to a person like that?
>
> Thanks.
>
> > I highly recommend that the entire front end of an application be
> > created as part of the prototype process. I have seen many, many
> > failures occur when prototyping is either skipped entirely or (more
> > commonly) not treated seriously enough.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jonathan Kopanas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:27 PM
> > To: Fusebox List
> > Subject: FLiP and Prototyping
> >
> >
> > In FLiP when you refer to prototyping do you prototype the whole site
> > i.e. do html pages for practically the whole site or just 2 to 3
> > templates?
> >
> > Is there any tools other then devnotes used for prototyping in this
> > community?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > John Jonathan Kopanas
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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