Well said Ed,

REH



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brian McAndrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: Crumble and despair in our education policy


> Brian, I saw your response to Keith and agree with the impact that
> Thaterism, Reaganomics and politicians of that shade of the spectrum have
> had.  And yes, Snobolen also demonstrated that you can't put the small
> business mind in charge of major social programs and expect good results.
I
> don't know how the teachers in the public system do it.  My wife, daughter
> and I have just returned from a music evening at my daughter's high
school.
> My daughter is in the choir and it performed beautifully, suggesting that
> the choir director, a teacher, had spent a tremendous amount of time with
> the kids.  Judging by how well the various bands performed, their
directors,
> also teachers, must also have spent a tremendous amount of time with those
> kids too.
>
> My daughter will finish high school next term.  She is a very good student
> in some subjects but needs a fair bit of help in others.  Her teachers
have
> always made sure she has had that help.  Despite being under attack and
not
> given enough resources, they have done a very good job.  Some have left,
but
> most have hung in, truly dedicated people.
>
> I think we still have some distance to go before we recognize as a society
> that the small business mind may be great at running small businesses, but
> does not usually have the scope, dedication or compassion to run something
> of societal importance.
>
> Regards, Ed
>
> Ed Weick
> 577 Melbourne Ave.
> Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> Canada
> Phone (613) 728 4630
> Fax     (613)  728 9382
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian McAndrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Crumble and despair in our education policy
>
>
> >
> > Hi Ed,
> > See my response to Keith re what Thatcher unleashed in the UK in the
> > late seventies and it has made its way around the world (New Zealand,
> > Australia, USA, Canada...)
> > Need I remind you of Snobelen's "I will invent a crisis in education"
> > which he boasted about in 1995. Well look around. Talk to some damn
> > fine teachers,like many of my colleagues, who retired early with
> > tears in their eyes because they couldn't stomach what they were
> > being compelled to do anymore. Snobelen's manufactured crisis is very
> > real and it is symptomatic of the crisis in medicine, nursing...
> >
> > Take care,
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > >Brian, I agree that fundamental reform is needed, and also agree that
the
> > >money being put back into the public system is not enough.  However,
> under
> > >the present government you're not going to get reform that is in any
> sense
> > >fundamental and you're not going to get much more money, so you take
what
> > >you can get and keep working.  My wife is on the local high school
> council.
> > >What she's heard from the local activists is that while they're not
> happy,
> > >they at least feel somewhat vindicated.  It may be smoke and mirrors,
but
> I
> > >would prefer to see it as half a loaf (or less).
> > >
> > >Ed
> > >
> > >Ed Weick
> > >577 Melbourne Ave.
> > >Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> > >Canada
> > >Phone (613) 728 4630
> > >Fax     (613)  728 9382
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Brian McAndrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:04 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Crumble and despair in our education policy
> > >
> > >
> > >>  Hi Ed,
> > >>  Here is a very different perspective which I support. I see the
> > >>  Rozanski report as 'smoke and mirrors'.
> > >>
> > >>  Take care,
> > >>  Brian McAndrews
> > >>  ----------------------------
> > >>  Rozanski validates Tories
> > >>
> > >>    IAN URQUHART
> > >>
> > >>    For anyone looking for fundamental reform in the way our schools
are
> > >>  funded, the report of the
> > >>    Mordechai Rozanski task force is a huge disappointment.
> > >>
> > >>    Most will focus on Rozanski's recommendation that the government
> > >>  pour another $1.8 billion into
> > >>    schools.
> > >>
> > >>    That sounds like a lot, but it is to be spread over three years,
or
> > >>  $600 million a year. Given an over-all
> > >>    education budget of $14.2 billion, that's an annual increase of
just
> > >>  3.5 per cent.
> > >>
> > >>    And the government may not even have to spend that much. It could
> > >>  put the savings from the elimination of Grade 13 - estimated by the
> > >>  Ministry
> > >>    of Education to be $100 million - toward meeting Rozanski's target
> > >>  figure, for a net increase of just $500 million a year.
> > >>
> > >>    That, perhaps not coincidentally, is the figure contained in a
> > >>  recently leaked memo from Finance Minister Janet Ecker's office.
> > >>
> > >>    "The Premier (Ernie Eves) was musing about maintaining the annual
> > >>  increase in education funding of $500 million for the next three
> > >>  years," it said.
> > >>
> > >>    So Rozanski has essentially recommended that the government spend
> > >>  what it was already planning to spend on education.
> > >>
> > >>    And he has also validated the province's "student-focused funding
> > >formula."
> > >>
> > >>    That's the complex mechanism with which the government has
> > >>  controlled every dollar spent on education in Ontario since it took
> > >>  the responsibility
> > >>    away from school boards five years ago.
> > >>
> > >>    Rather than recommend that the funding formula be blown up,
Rozanski
> > >>  calls for some fine tuning.
> > >>
> > >>    His report repeatedly mentions the need for "flexibility" in the
> > >>  funding of education because the needs and demands differ so greatly
> > >>  from board to
> > >>    board across the province. The provincial government "cannot be,
and
> > >>  should not try to be, a micromanager," he says.
> > >>
> > >>    But Rozanski then proceeds to ... micromanage.
> > >>
> > >>    He recommends enhancing "the demographic component of the learning
> > >>  opportunities grant" to help urban boards with disadvantaged kids in
> > >>  their
> > >>    schools; funnelling more money to ex-urban boards through "the
> > >>  geographic circumstances grant" to keep small schools open in
> > >  > single-school
> > >>    communities; creating a new "deferred maintenance amortization
fund"
> > >>  to allow cash-strapped boards to build new schools; and so on.
> > >>
> > >>    Dismissed, in one sentence, is the idea of giving school boards
back
> > >>  the power to levy their own taxes - say, up to 10 per cent of their
> > >>  budgets, as
> > >>    recommended by previous task forces. That would ensure the boards
> > >>  have the necessary money to deal with local priorities rather than
> > >>  having to look
> > >>    to the provincial government for a grant to cover every need.
> > >>
> > >>    "I oppose such a restoration ... on the grounds of equity,"
Rozanski
> > >says.
> > >>
> > >>    So, the provincial government will remain solely responsible for
> > >>  raising money for education and will continue to dole it out with
> > >>  strings attached.
> > >>
> > >>    It will, in other words, keep on micromanaging the system from the
> > >>  Mowat Block at Queen's Park (home of the Ministry of Education).
> > >>
> > >>    Rozanski's report disappoints in other ways. For example, he
avoids
> > >>  the sticky issue of how teachers' salaries are determined.
Currently,
> > >>  individual
> > >>    boards are responsible for collective bargaining with the
teachers'
> > >>  unions, but the province decides how much money is available for pay
> > >>  increases.
> > >>
> > >>    It is an absurd division of responsibility, and some had hoped
> > >>  (feared?) Rozanski would recommend a move toward province-wide
> > >>  bargaining. He
> > >>    does not.
> > >>
> > >>    Nor does he tackle the problem of excessively large school
boards -
> > >>  one in northwestern Ontario is the size of France - that make local
> > >>  decision
> > >>    making difficult, if not impossible.
> > >>
> > >>    Instead, he recommends that the "minister of education review ...
> > >>  the education governance structure."
> > >>
> > >>    It is, in brief, a safely bureaucratic report.
> > >>
> > >>    That is not surprising, because Rozanski, president of the
> > >>  University of Guelph, was heavily dependent on the Mowat Block
> > >>  bureaucracy for his
> > >>    research and information. He commissioned no independent research.
> > >>
> > >>    No wonder, then, that the government embraced his report.
> > >>
> > >>    "I am pleased that Dr. Rozanski has confirmed that our
> > >>  student-focused funding formula is an effective way to foster
> > >>  excellence and bring fairness for
> > >>    all students," Eves said yesterday.
> > >>
> > >>    Rozanski has given Eves and the Tories what they wanted: He has
> > >>  bought them time on the education file to get them through the next
> > >>  provincial
> > >>    election, expected in 2003.
> > >>
> > >>    Fundamental reform will, apparently, have to wait until after that
> > >election.
> > >>
> > >>    For in the long run, the status quo - a centralized education
system
> > >>  run entirely out of Queen's Park - is untenable. The same problems
> > >>  that
> > >>    prompted the government to appoint Rozanski -deficits, inadequate
> > >>  funding of different sectors, school closings and so on - will raise
> > >>  their ugly
> > >>    heads again in a few years' time.
> > >>
> > >>    Additional articles by Ian Urquhart
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>  >Even the right leaning Globe and Mail appears to believe that one
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> to
> > >fix
> > >>  >a vital but crumbling public service is to put some money into it.
> From
> > >>  >today's editorial page:
> > >>  >
> > >>  >"Rozanski's prescription
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Thursday, December 12, 2002 - Page A24
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Mordechai Rozanski has just done for education in Ontario what the
> > >one-man
> > >>  >royal commission did last month for Canadian health care. Reporting
> to
> > >the
> > >>  >provincial government, he argued that a lot more tax money be
spent:
> > >roughly
> > >>  >$2-billion a year, on a $14-billion system, by 2005-06. But not
> without
> > >>  >strings; in particular, he wants the system to account more
> transparently
> > >>  >for its spending.
> > >  > >
> > >>  >He makes a good case that a high-quality education system requires
a
> high
> > >>  >level of public investment. "Britain and other jurisdictions came
to
> this
> > >>  >realization," he says. A footnote points to an essay asserting that
> > >former
> > >>  >British prime minister Margaret Thatcher challenged the schools in
> the
> > >1980s
> > >>  >to improve by instituting new tests and standards, but did not
> provide
> > >>  >support for teacher training or address inner-city needs. The
result?
> > >>  >Conflict and demoralization.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Much the same happened in Mike Harris's Ontario. A rigorous new
> > >curriculum,
> > >>  >new provincewide tests, publication of results, more equitable
> funding of
> > >>  >school boards -- all are sound policies. But much went awry in
> > >>  >implementation. The funding remained stuck at 1998 levels; Dr.
> Rozanski
> > >>  >would add $1.08-billion just to keep up with student growth and
> > >inflation.
> > >>  >Expected savings from amalgamating small boards did not help rich
> boards
> > >>  >whose funds were siphoned off for poor boards. Teacher training
> suffered.
> > >So
> > >>  >did special-education pupils.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >The result has been a series of strange goings-on, in which
> school-board
> > >>  >trustees in Toronto and Ottawa broke the law by passing deficit
> budgets,
> > >and
> > >>  >the province (now Ernie Eves's Ontario) appointed a supervisor to
> take
> > >over
> > >>  >and cut costs. All this while Dr. Rozanski was hard at work, about
to
> > >>  >recommend that the money be put back and more added.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Dr. Rozanski, who was presumably not chosen by the Tories for being
a
> > >>  >wild-eyed radical, embodies the virtues of Canada's public schools.
> The
> > >>  >child of immigrants, he became the president of Ontario's
University
> of
> > >>  >Guelph. Public schools gave him, in his words, "the promise of a
> future."
> > >>  >
> > >>  >That promise does not come cheaply. In education, unlike medicine,
> > >Canadians
> > >>  >have a choice: They can opt for the private alternative. And they
> have
> > >done
> > >>  >so. Between 1995 and 1999, private-school enrolment grew by 40,000
in
> > >>  >Ontario, rising to 103,000. The public system, with an enrolment of
> 2.1
> > >>  >million, must be protected; it remains the key to social progress
and
> > >>  >mobility.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Wisely, Dr. Rozanski insists that school boards, principals,
teachers
> and
> > >>  >other staff be accountable for using their resources effectively, a
> point
> > >>  >never fully embraced by trustees. For instance, more flexible and
> > >beefed-up
> > >>  >grants for local priorities and for inner-city children should
> receive
> > >>  >greater public discussion and there should be follow-up reports on
> what
> > >has
> > >>  >been achieved.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >And he has found a way out of a shameful box on special education.
> > >Absurdly,
> > >>  >auditor Al Rosen criticized the Ottawa school board for offering
> separate
> > >>  >classes for special-education students, a criticism made not on
> > >pedagogical
> > >>  >grounds but because the board could not afford to bus them to those
> > >classes.
> > >>  >Yesterday, the province said its first action would be additional
> > >financing
> > >>  >for special-ed, including transportation.
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Ontario needs to be fiscally responsible, but it has promised
parents
> > >better
> > >>  >schools. It is appropriate to begin the rebuilding with those most
in
> > >need."
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Ed Weick
> > >>  >577 Melbourne Ave.
> > >>  >Ottawa, ON, K2A 1W7
> > >>  >Canada
> > >>  >Phone (613) 728 4630
> > >>  >Fax     (613)  728 9382
> > >>  >
> > >>  >----- Original Message -----
> > >>  >From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>  >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>  >Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:14 AM
> > >>  >Subject: Crumble and despair in our education policy
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >>  Charles Clarke, the present Minister for Education, is seriously
> > >proposing
> > >>  >>  that head-teachers should have the power to fine parents whose
> > >children
> > >>  >are
> > >>  >>  skipping school.
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>  The proposal has only just been released this morning. It will,
of
> > >course,
> > >>  >>  die a death almost immediately because it's more than a step
> towards
> > >the
> > >>  >>  sort of totalitarianism of Communist USSR or Nazi Germany but,
> > >>  >>  nevertheless, it's yet another indication of the depth of
despair
> that
> > >>  >>  politicians in the present Labour government have about the
> > >fast-crumbling
> > >>  >>  state education system in England.
> > >  > >>
> > >>  >>  Keith Hudson
> > >>
> >
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