Yes, but I deliberately did not get into specifics.  Was just trying to make
the point that we do some good but bring suspicion upon ourselves on the
whole when we manipulate and send such conflicting messages, both in policy
and image.  For example, below.

It's a moral dilemma: we have the capability, but does that mean we should
do it?  They can't decide!  I think they call it judgment paralysis after an
major accident - when the people on watch during an enormous unexpected
attack 1) pay the public price for not being prepared or 2) wrestle with
their own demons about how to respond, sometimes letting their damaged
emotions make the decision.  Kinda like someone whose child was shot while
hunting with the boys then can't decide whether to shoot his friend for the
accident or teaching everyone to shoot and hunt responsibly.

There is too much power up there and that is why you are seeing leaks from
the Pentagon when the uniforms get scared there are no internal checks and
balances.  This is not the only place Rumsfield's, Wolfowitz's and Leith's
'management style' has come under harsh review.  KWC
Pentagon Debates Propaganda Push in Allied Nations
By THOM SHANKER and ERIC SCHMITT, NYT, 12.16.02 @
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/16/international/16MILI.html

WASHINGTON, Dec. 15 - The Defense Department is considering issuing a secret
directive to the American military to conduct covert operations aimed at
influencing public opinion and policy makers in friendly and neutral
countries, senior Pentagon and administration officials say.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has not yet decided on the proposal,
which has ignited a fierce battle throughout the Bush administration over
whether the military should carry out secret propaganda missions in friendly
nations like Germany, where many of the Sept. 11 hijackers congregated, or
Pakistan, still considered a haven for Al Qaeda's militants.

Such a program, for example, could include efforts to discredit and
undermine the influence of mosques and religious schools that have become
breeding grounds for Islamic militancy and anti-Americanism across the
Middle East, Asia and Europe.  It might even include setting up schools with
secret American financing to teach a moderate Islamic position laced with
sympathetic depictions of how the religion is practiced in America,
officials said.

Many administration officials agree that the government's broad strategy to
counter terrorism must include vigorous and creative propaganda to change
the negative view of America held in many countries.  The fight, one
Pentagon official said, is over "the strategic communications for our
nation, the message we want to send for long-term influence, and how we do
it."

As a military officer put it: "We have the assets and the capabilities and
the training to go into friendly and neutral nations to influence public
opinion. We could do it and get away with it. That doesn't mean we should."

It is not the first time that the debate over how the United States should
marshal its forces to win the hearts and minds of the world has raised
difficult and potentially embarrassing questions at the Pentagon.  A
nonclandestine parallel effort at the State Department, which refers to its
role as public diplomacy, has not met with so much resistance.

In February, Mr. Rumsfeld had to disband the Pentagon's Office of Strategic
Influence, ending a short-lived plan to provide news items, and possibly
false ones, to foreign journalists to influence public sentiment abroad.
Senior Pentagon officials say Mr. Rumsfeld is deeply frustrated that the
United States government has no coherent plan for molding public opinion
worldwide in favor of America in its global campaign against terrorism and
militancy.

Many administration officials agree that there is a role for the military in
carrying out what it calls information operations against adversaries,
especially before and during war, as well as routine public relations work
in friendly nations like Colombia, the Philippines or Bosnia, whose
governments have welcomed American troops.

In hostile countries like Iraq, such missions are permitted under policy and
typically would include broadcasting from airborne radio stations or
dropping leaflets like those the military has printed to undermine morale
among Iraqi soldiers.  In future wars, they might include technical attacks
to disable computer networks, both military and civilian.  But the idea of
ordering the military to take psychological aim at allies has divided the
Pentagon - with civilians and uniformed officers on both sides of the
debate.  Some are troubled by suggestions that the military might pay
journalists to write stories favorable to American policies or hire outside
contractors without obvious ties to the Pentagon to organize rallies in
support of American policies.

The current battlefield for these issues involves amendments to a classified
Department of Defense directive, titled "3600.1: Information Operations,"
which would enshrine an overarching Pentagon policy for years to come.
Current policy holds that aggressive information tactics are "to affect
adversary decision makers" - not those of friendly or even neutral nations.
But proposed revisions to the directive, as quoted by senior officials,
would not make adversaries the only targets for carrying out military
information operations - abbreviated as "I.O." in the document, which is
written in the dense jargon typical of military doctrine.

"In peacetime, I.O. supports national objectives primarily by influencing
foreign perceptions and decision-making," the proposal states. "In crises
short of hostilities, I.O. can be used as a flexible deterrent option to
communicate national interest and demonstrate resolve. In conflict, I.O. can
be applied to achieve physical and psychological results in support of
military objectives."

Although the defense secretary is among those pushing to come up with a
bolder strategy for getting out the American message, he has not yet decided
whether the military should take on those responsibilities, the officials
said.

There is little dispute over such battlefield tactics as destroying an
enemy's radio and television stations.  All is considered fair in that kind
of war.  But several senior military officers, some of whom have recently
left service, expressed dismay at the concept of assigning the military to
wage covert propaganda campaigns in friendly or neutral countries.  "Running
ops against your allies doesn't work very well," Adm. Dennis C. Blair, a
retired commander of American forces in the Pacific, advised Pentagon
officials as they began re-examining the classified directive over the
summer.  "I've seen it tried a few times, and it generally is not very
effective."

Those in favor of assigning the military an expanded role argue that no
other department is stepping up to the task of countering propaganda from
terrorists, who hold no taboo against deception.  They also contend that the
Pentagon has the best technological tools for the job, especially in the
areas of satellite communications and computer warfare, and that the
American military has important interests to protect in some countries,
including those where ties with the government are stronger than the
affections of the population.

For example, as anti-American sentiment has risen this year in South Korea,
intensified recently by the deaths of two schoolgirls who were crushed by an
American armored vehicle, some Pentagon officials were prompted to consider
ways of influencing Korean public opinion outside of traditional public
affairs or community outreach programs, one military official said. No
detailed plan has yet emerged.

Those who oppose the military's taking on the job of managing perceptions of
America in allied states say it more naturally falls to diplomats and
civilians, or even uniformed public affairs specialists.  They say that
secret operations, if deemed warranted by the president, should be carried
out by American intelligence agencies.

In addition, they say, the Pentagon's job of explaining itself through
public affairs officers could be tainted by any link to covert information
missions.  "These allied nations would absolutely object to having the
American military attempt to secretly affect communications to their
populations," said one State Department official with a long career in
overseas public affairs.  Even so, this official conceded: "The State
Department can't do it.  We're not arranged to do it, and we don't have the
money.  And U.S.I.A. is broken."  He was referring to the United States
Information Agency, which was absorbed into the State Department.

One effort to reshape the nation's ability to get its message out was a
proposal by Representative Henry J. Hyde, an Illinois Republican who is
chairman of the House International Relations Committee.  Mr. Hyde is
pushing for $255 million to bolster the State Department's public diplomacy
effort and reorganize international broadcasting activities.

"If we are to be successful in our broader foreign policy goals," Mr. Hyde
said in a statement, "America's effort to engage the peoples of the world
must assume a more prominent place in the planning and execution of our
foreign policy."

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