In one state where I lived there were 2 med schools. One accepted 1 of
every 2 applicants [not the university where I was [:>)}].

Bill

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:54:48 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> accreditation is a thorny issue.
> 
> It is nice to see the diplomas on the wall (of doctor, lawyer, 
> engineer,
> architect) but are we sure they know what they are doing?  and what 
> if they
> don't?  what recourse?
> 
> that is why I guess that people say, when moving to a new town ask 
> around.
> find a doc in a teaching hospital (more accreditation and more 
> supervision,
> helping to catch the oafs).
> 
> Friedman would say that the market will work. As long as information 
> is
> provided (which it currently isn't.  the medical world, for example 
> is
> shrouded in cya and mystery)  When a patient dies, in Friedman's 
> model  the
> next prospective patient would  move to a different doctor.  Today 
> with
> cover ups, when a patient dies there is no information on why this 
> happened
> or indeed if it happened at all.  Unless of course there is a law 
> suit.
> 
> arthur
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo,
> Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Harry,
> >  
> > Go back an re-read Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom.  He 
> makes a 
> > strong case for getting rid of a lot of the accreditation in 
> society 
> > saying that it just builds enclaves of monopoly power. ie., 
> privilege. 
> [snip]
> 
> It seems to me that the justification for accreditation
> lies in the HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE, which
> prevents persons from verifying the competencies of the
> persons they need services from by first-person
> experience of performative evidence.
> 
> Our doctors, et al., apart from their cdredentials,
> are mostly "pig in a poke"s to us.  I don't see how this
> can be changed in the anonymo-city.
> 
> However, perhaps the credentialling process can be
> shifted from multiple choice tests to the making and
> predsentation of masterpieces.  This happens to
> some extent (e.g., for watchmaker trainees). But I
> think the tendency is away from personal presentation
> of evidence of mastery toward enhancing
> Educational Testing Service's
> services.
> 
> Anoher problem is that even where supposedly
> evidence of mastery is the criterion, as in the
> PhD dissertation process, much of the time the
> "evidence" prouced is something that means nothing
> to the learner but which is of some use as
> cheap labor to those who already have their
> credential.  I think we need to acknowledge that
> many graduate students do not yet have any
> really meaningful interests in their young lives,
> and we need to find a way to let them
> do the jobs they are training for without
> jumping thru hoops.
> 
>      For the mindful god abhors untimely growth.
>                (--Holderlin)
> 
> Dissertations should be optional productions, which
> come when "the spirit moves" a person to have
> something to say in an honorific sense.
> 
> Besides making the creenialling process more
> genuinely reasonable as part of meaningful
> personal and social life, I think we also
> ned to tr to minimize the situations
> which require credentialling.  Automobile driving
> licenses are an obvious example here: The whole
> instituional establishment of driver licensing
> only exists because persons cannot walk to the
> places they need and want to go to in their
> daily lives.  We need to design out of
> life such regimentation-creating social
> structures. -- unless, of course, we genuinely
> enjoy being tested and geting credentialled and failing
> to get credentialled.... "Daddy, when can I take
> the SATs? I wanna! I really wanna! When, daddy,
> PLEASE!" "Sorry son, but you have to go to kindergarten
> first. You have to learn to be patient.  You'll
> get your chance to do the fun things
> grownups do when you are old enough. You just
> have to have some patience...."
> 
> \brad mccormick
> 
> -- 
>    Let your light so shine before men,
>                that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
> 
>    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
> 
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