On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:49:07PM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 11 Mar 2002 17:03:19 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:01:46AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 08:42:24AM +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 10:37:53AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > > > BTW, I'm not convinced titles with one letter atop the other look > > > > > better than rotated titles. > > > > > > > > Maybe this should be a style? RotateVerticalTitle / AtopVerticalTitle. > > > > > > > > <Some others remarks without real importance in comparison from the > > > > wonderfull fact that fvwm has now vertical title!!> > > > > > > It's probably not important enough to write code for *both* ways. > > > > Yes, but I make some test with "Atop". This is ugly and castrophic > > with certain string. I think we should rotate. > > These are my thoughs too. Both monitors and fonts are not designed at all > for the Japanese like direction. Displays are wide, fonts are thin with > the constant height and different widths, this makes it nice to write it > left-to-right or right-to-left, but not top-to-bottom (even if centered). > > > > > Also, it is not clear for me in which "direction" we should rotate > > > > the title. It is clear that the default is to perform a -90° rotation, > > > > as French guys (and maybe pepeole from other countries) would like > > > > a +90° rotation > > > > > > +90° is "top to bottom" and -90° is "bottom to top"? The most > > > natural way seems to be text from bottom to top on the left side > > > and top to bottom on the right side. When you turn your head > > > before the screen it tends to lean a bit to the side: > > > > > > | <- the neck in neutral position > > > / <- when looking right > > > \ <- when looking left > > > > > > Thus, the angle between the lines between the eyes and the title > > > is reduced a bit (85° instead of 90° for example). Of course you > > > can have the left side of a window to the right of your head, but > > > it's less likely to happen. > > > > Interesting. I thought about books in a library: for example, > > American book title are top to bottom as French book title are > > bottom to top. Maybe, these traditions are important as the users > > may have their brain already formed for a given direction? > > I need to turn my head to the left for books in 2 my languages, like with > French. I think you are right about a brain already formed to turn a head > to the left, even for right titles. An option would be good (3 values: > SideTextRotateRight, SideTextRotateLeft, SideTextRotateAsTitle).
It is already possible to test "rotate right" with xft font: Style * Font "xft:a_familly:matrix=0 1 -1 0" Olivier -- Visit the official FVWM web page at <URL:http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm-workers" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
