On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 01:22:58PM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 12:52:47PM +0200, Olivier Chapuis wrote:
> > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 08:52:23AM +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 03:01:38AM +0200, Olivier Chapuis wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Attached to this msg 2 new cmds StyleById and DestroyStyleById.
> > > > StyleById applies styles to specific windows:
> > > > 
> > > >         Pick Style $[w.id] NoTitle, !Borders
> > > > 
> > > > DestroyStyleById can destroy such a style.
> > > > 
> > > > The implementation solve the pbs with the patch send by Craig Milo 
> > > > Rogers
> > > > a few weeks ago:
> > > > - When a window is "destroyed" the associated StyleById is destroyed
> > > > too (if not a new window can have the same id and the old style by
> > > > id is applied).
> > > > - No more ambiguity with the Style cmd as we have a new cmd.
> > > > 
> > > > I see no strong reason against this patch, but (as we are under
> > > > feature freeze) a vote against it. Any one?
> > > 
> > > Adding the patch to 2.5.x is out of the question (feature freeze).
> > 
> > During 2.3.x we added new features during feature freeze.  Of course
> > adding a new feature should lead to discussion and voting. But I do
> > not think that we _must_ not add some.  During development period we
> > may, for various reasons, postpone/forget/miss certain stuff. Then,
> > during feature freeze we can "fix" these stuff. 
> 
> I am trying to stabilise fvwm

We (all) are trying to stabilise fvwm ...

> and patches of this dimension have
> the potential to throw us back for months.
> 

I do not think so. It may cause problems but does not lead
to such a delay.

> > > Apart from that, this topic requires much more thought.  We don't
> > > want to make an ad-hoc syntax now, find out later that it does not
> > > work with all the other Style related enhancements and the
> > > redesign exevrything from scratch.
> > 
> > Oh yes. For me, these commands are just _workaround_ commands: This
> > feature is important and it is easy to get it so why we should live
> > without it?
> > Because, we have an ambitious project "the WindowStyle command" which
> > leads to "Conditional Style"?
> 
> See my reply to Mikhael's post.  If you prefer a neverending beta
> status, we can not work on the same project.
>

Why do you use such argument?

> > Well, with the current FVWM development logic we will have to wait 3
> > years to get something that can do what StyleById can do now
> 
> Everybody is welcome to help solving the problems that stand
> between 2.5.6 and 2.6.0.
>

And of course I do nothing for that :o)
 
Regards, Olivier
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