Based on personal experiences I wouldn't recommend Dell based on the stability 
of their RAID cards.  Our main file server (Poweredge 6400 w/PERC3-QC) has had 
3 RAID array failures in the last two years, our new mail server (Poweredge 
2600) was not even 2 months old nor in a production environment when we had a 
complete array failure (required the replacement of all backplanes, 
motherboard, cables, etc).  Our SPLAT box (Poweredge 1750) has not had any 
failures in 9 months <knock on wood>, but our past server failures don't leave 
me with the warm and fuzzy feeling.
 
I haven't had any problems with Dell's laptops or desktops, but the stability 
of their servers will steer me to HP for any future server needs.  If that 
means I need to deal with loud fans, so be it, as long as the RAID controllers 
have a solid track record and proven reliability.
 
One thing I would've done differently is made sure I could get as many PCI-X 
slots as we could afford.  I got a 1U server (we're not tight on rack space), 
but I'm pigeon-holed with two PCI-X slots now.  One is occupied by a 4 port NIC 
and the other by a VPN accelerator card.  Had I thought ahead I would've jumped 
at a 2U+ server to have the ability to throw in another one or two 4 port cards.
 
Do they make 6 or 8 port NICs?  Even if I need a dongle...  :)
 
> > Use the dell then. You should use whatever you've infrastructure standard 
> > is.
> > 
> > They are solid servers, but l would ensure to find out how many PCI(X)
> > cards you can install on each model you are considering.
> > 
> > Also check to ensure if running dual power supplies takes away any PCI(X)
> slots (as occurs with the DL360 l think).
> 
> Alan
> 
> >On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:27:03 -0500, Jameel Akari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hmm, I think you're a little confused.
> > >
> > > SPLAT (Secure Platform) is Checkpoint's bundled FW1 and OS product.
> > > It is a customized and hardened (well, stripped anyway) version of Linux,
> > > into which FW1/VPN1 has been ported.
> > >
> > > You run SPLAT on any standard x86-based server, subject to the supported
> > > hardware and your requirements.  SPLAT isn't, and doesn't come with, any
> > > specific hardware.
> > >
> > > The HP DL380 is a 2U rackmount server, currently Pentium-IV between 2.2
> > > and 3.06 GHz, with onboard hardware RAID (six drive slots), two onboard
> > > gigabit ethernet interfaces (copper) and thress (?) PCI slots.
> > >
> > > I am running SPLAT on a 3.0GHz DL380G3.  It's overkill, but sure is nice.
> > > It could certainly sustain 1Gb throughput.
> > >
> > > The DL360 is a 1U server with two drive slots, 2 onboard NICs and 2 PCI
> > > slots.  It can be made as fast as the larger machine and costs less.  I'll
> > > probably go with this on my next FW project.
> > >
> > > Other companies (IBM, Dell) make comparable boxes which at this point are
> > > all pretty good, having varying degrees of support in SPLAT.
> >
> >Thanks, this is making sense now.  Thanks for the recommendations everyone.
> >
> >Regarding SPLAT, you mention varying degrees of support.  Where can I
> >find this information?  We have 100% Dell servers for x86 here now.
> >Would there be a compelling reason to go with HP?


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