I love the Zend Framework's functionality, but so much of how all the
necessary components hang together in a production quality Website is
difficult to discern. 

I would like to get all of the following configured and working before I
write a single line of application specific code: configuration specified,
connect to stub data store that include user login and user role tables,
load reusable utility modules, enforce user roles and authentication across
the utility modules, include an admin module, enable caching, provide
command-line maintenance scripts, expose a subset of the stub data store via
a REST api, include a test harness, and manage dev, staging, and production
versions of a Website.

Right now doing the above seems like a very daunting task using the Zend
Framework. I know some will say not all projects need the above, but I would
say almost all production Web sites do. Some would say this would be very
hard to do without Zend Framework, and I would agree. 

Buy if there are Websites in production using ZF, they must have solved many
if not all of these issues. Why do we all have to reinvent the wheel?

- Steve W.


Matthew Ratzloff wrote:
> 
>>
>> Framework can't be flexible. If somebody needs flexibility then he can
> 
> programming in normal PHP without framework. :-)
> 
> 
> This is an opinion, one to which Zend Framework does not subscribe.  There
> are plenty of PHP frameworks which do subscribe to this opinion.  And
> there's always Rails, which I like, but is very, very different from Zend
> Framework.
> 
> I encourage you to change your approach to Zend Framework, rather than
> expecting Zend Framework to change its approach.  You will be much happier
> without preconceived ideas of how you think the framework should be.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:16 AM, aoohralex <aoohra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> One year ago I knew one person who used Zend Framework. One day he had to
>> modify (add something) somebody's website wrote in Zend Framework but he
>> had
>> to write everything from the beginning. He was then very angry and he
>> said
>> me why. Do you know ?
>>
>> Bacause ZF was so flexible that somebody created this website in horrible
>> way - he said me that everything was wrong, it wasn't MVC and he faster
>> create this website from the beginning then modify it.
>>
>> Framework can't be flexible. If somebody needs flexibility then he can
>> programming in normal PHP without framework. :-)
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