On 6 November 2013 00:22, Artur Bodera <abod...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Evan Coury <m...@evancoury.com> wrote: > > > These enterprise users will simply have to be feature-frozen and only > > receive minor version updates when a security fix is backported, period. > > Missing out on new features and (non-critical) bugfixes *after* such a > > change is a cost they have already accepted as part of their policy to > > limit themselves strictly to distribution-provided packages. > > > > I think it's the gist of the problem. > > There's also quite lot of assumptions, which basically boils down to: "if > they use old PHP versions, it's their problem and they must know and > acknowledge all downsides, accept all the risks". Well, it's actually a > logical conclusion but the question is: how much do they rely on frameworks > such as ZF2 to "shim away" their problems ? >
I don't think ZF, SF or whatever framework you pick should become "the jQuery of PHP". A framework is not an excuse to use older PHP versions without worrying. > > If we went this way, on our side, this means very careful PR merging > process so backports do receive as many of the upgrades as possible. Not > sure how much pain that would be actually :-| @mwop ? > Yes, that would be very painful. Instead of that solution, I' rather suggest keeping 5.3.3 in ZF2 and delaying whatever is causing the failures for ZF3 (where the bump is possible). > > > will still be fine to use all of the ZF2 features they've come to depend > on up until this point > > Yes, but those features will slowly diminish with time, as only security > stuff will be backported. So basically our decision here means: "no more > feature upgrades and bug fixes for you from now on unless you upgrade PHP". > That's kind-of the point of upgrading generally... > > > -- > abod...@gmail.com > +48 695 600 936 > http://thinkscape.pro > Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/