Hey, all --
I never closed this thread, but will do so now.
ZF 2.3.0 WILL bump the version to at least 5.3.9; we may bump to the
last 5.3 release version (5.3.27), as that contains the last security
fixes applied to the 5.3 branch, and distros that provide 5.3 either
have 5.3.3 or 5.3.latest typically; Zend Server, which should run on
just about any OS out there, ships 5.3.27 already, and is a viable
option for upgrade for those whose distros are stuck on older
versions.
We *DO* have precedence for bumping the minimum required version at
minor release versions; we did this with 1.7 (bumped to 5.2.4) and
again with 1.12 (bumped to 5.2.<latest at the time>). Additionally, as
others noted in the thread, if you are "stuck" with an LTS server
edition, typically you are also pinning to specific ZF versions long
term as well, as it's part of your release process.
While I am aware this will displease some of you, we cannot please
everyone, and we have some very real issues in the code base that
require fixes introduced starting in 5.3.9. Considering that we are in
the last few months of security releases for the 5.3 branch, an
upgrade to 5.4 or higher is strongly encouraged by the PHP group
anyways.
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
<matt...@zend.com> wrote:
> Hey, all --
>
> We're running into a few situations where bumping the minimum required
> PHP version for ZF2 would be useful; in fact, there's at least one
> situation where staying with 5.3.3 actually prevents progress on a few
> issues.
>
> The specific issue we have is that, until 5.3.9, PHP did not allow the
> following:
>
> interface Foo
> {
> public function send();
> }
>
> interface Bar
> {
> public function send();
> }
>
> class FooBar implements Foo, Bar
> {
> public function send()
> {
> // do something
> }
> }
>
> Essentially, implementing multiple interfaces that define the same
> method, using the same signature.
> Prior to 5.3.9, this raises an E_FATAL. From 5.3.9 forward, it works.
>
> Having this would allow us to fix a situation with the way translation
> works across components; not having it means we're stuck with some of
> those problems.
>
> There are other issues as well: ArrayObject has had a lively history
> of malfunctioning with 5.3 and 5.4, and there are some odd behaviors
> in the object model as well that have been corrected starting in 5.3.7
> and up.
>
> Considering PHP 5.3 has already reached end of life status
> (http://php.net/archive/2013.php#id2013-07-11-1), upping the minimum
> version seems like "a good idea."
>
> My question, then is:
>
> - Should we up the minimum required PHP version for ZF2?
> - If your answer was "no", why not?
> - If your answer was "yes", what version should become the next
> minimum supported PHP version? Why?
>
> NOTE: we are not announcing that we will up the minimum required
> version at this time; I'm soliciting feedback so we can make a
> decision.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
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> Project Lead | matt...@zend.com
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