At 9:02 PM -0600 6/9/04, Bob wrote:
At 1:55 PM -0400 6/5/04, Laurent Daudelin wrote:I didn't know the Wallstreet had built-in OpenFirmware.
Open Firmware problems on Macs: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25249> And it indicates that OF is incorporated in the PowerBook 2400, 3400, and G3/G3 series and newer computers.
ALL PCI-based Macs (from the 7200 onward) have OpenFirmware. Some have a more complete OF than others (this *may* be why reset-nvram didn't work for Susan's WS), but all PCI-based Macs have OF to one degree or another.
IIRC OF will is not available with any OS under 9.x.
OF is there all the time for all OSes. It operates below the level of the OS. If you boot into OF it happens prior to the OS loading so it's independent of the OS. I haven't tried it but you should be able to boot into OF with NO OS installed or with no drives attached.
At 12:18 PM +0100 6/5/04, Susan Platter wrote:Incidentally, I have great difficulty getting Open Firmware to start. Sometimes it does, but most times not. Is there any way of setting it to start up, without having to hold those keys down?
Hold down the keys just after you start the computer. If the computer seems to not be doing anything then release the keys momentarily and press them down again. It seems like holding keys down cause the computer to wait for them to be released. I've found this to be true with several start up key combos.
There is no other way. And maybe you weren't able to hold all of the keys down simultaneously each time, therefore not getting the unit to boot into OF.
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