One thing came to my mind as I was reading your collective posts, and I wasn't sure if anyone had brought it up: is this "Bad B&W" a Rev 1 or Rev 2 machine? Rev 1 machines have a bad IDE controller in them and cannot run large capacity drives or slaved drives without causing all sorts of lovely little hair-pulling errors. This page shows you how to identify which version of the chip you have:
http://xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/yosemite/newfeatures.html
Tony
On 5-Feb-04, at 11:38 PM, Nancy Haitz wrote:
Nancy wrote:
The external is a non-bootable USB drive. I have CCC attempting to clone the "good" B&W's system as I type this. Tonight, I will see if I can transfer the cloned system to the "evil" B&W.
Bruce wrote:
Why not connect the EvilB&W to the GoodB&W in firewiree target mode and use CCC to just clone it directly?
Life should be so easy... The good B&W is already in use at my business. It has been happily running as a cash register, and doing inventory control stuff since December 1. The bad B&W is at home, being beaten into submission.
What I did last night appeared to work. The system would boot and all. I just assumed that I used two systems that were too different: processors, graphics cards, etc. I don't know enough about OSX to know how much it customizes the install on each machine.
It doesn't, which is why I was able to simply clone a Gigabit Ethernet G4 directly to a brand new dualllie 2gHz G5 without any hassles at > all.
Hmmm... makes me even more suspicious that I might have a failing hard drive in there.
After booting from the Panther CD I selected the image from the external drive and the OS 10.2 partition for restoring. Like I said, it "seemed" to work.
You know, I'm wondering if that isn't the problem there, if the 10.3 restorer is doing something odd. Are you going to install 10.3 on this system? If so, then just do an archive and install of 10.3 after restoring.
I would LOVE to install Panther on it. Actually Panther runs just great on it. But, this is the machine that I can not get to boot from OS 9 to Panther.
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Well, I just did a restore of the Good B&W's OS 10.2.8 partition onto the Bad B&W's drive. I booted it up for the first time in Safe Mode and ran fsck. No problems found. Rebooted from the 10.2.8 partition and launched Disk Utility to do a Permissions Repair. I got a Panic about half way through. Restarted in Safe Mode and ran fsck again. It found a few things to fix so I ran it again. Booted from the 10.2 System CD and ran Repair Permissions from there. Booted up again from the 10.2.8 partition and ran Repair Permissions again. I got another Panic about half way through the repair. Booted from the Disk Warrior 3.0.1 disk and rebuilt the directory. Tried running Repair Permissions from the Disk Utility on the 10.2.8 partition for the third time. I got another Panic about half way through.
I am stumped. All sorts of strangeness going on with this machine. So, I am going to try putting another hard drive in it. I can boot from the flaky 10.2.8 partition. I will try using Carbon Copy Cloner to restore the Good B&W's Jaguar partition onto the new drive.
This is going to take a number of hours, since the external drive that contains the CCC image is a s-l-o-w USB 1 drive. It averages about a GB an hour, and I have just over 6 GBs of disk image.
I will post again tomorrow, after I get this sorted out.
Bruce, you may be right, in that the 10.3 restorer might be doing something odd. If you or anyone else has any suggestions I am all ears.
Ron bought me a rubber chicken today. Now if I only had a tiara. I understand that you can do all sorts of computer voodoo if you dance around the machine in your underwear, wearing a tiara, and waving a rubber chicken. Lacking a tiara, I think I will just flog it with the rubber chicken and install a new hard drive.
Nancy
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