On Thu, 27 May 2004, R. A. Cantrell wrote:
> I'm just about to get serious on putting a G3 beige board into an ATX case
> (I want a red one with clear panel sides and lots of winky lights inside)

-sigh- And another PC ricer kid is born...

> one with an on/off switch on it and the leads have to be at least 13" long.

Well, it needs to be an ATX case and an ATX power supply. Older units were 
AT cases and AT supplies, which required the front switch to turn the 
power on/off on the supply. ATX supplies still have a switch, usually on 
the back as a cutoff sort of thing, but they work like the Mac does, with 
soft on and soft off by having the motherboard control the power supply.

As for the 13" thing? Well, that depends on teh case you buy, but 
remmeber, you got to go from the supply to the bottom, back corner of the 
case and that can be a stretch. On the other hand, 30 minutes with a 
scissors, your teeth, and a $5 RadioShack soldering iron and you can have 
a power lead as long as your heart desires. Hey, since you wanna be a 
little ricer blingbling guy anyway, then you know you'll be wrapping the 
wires either in coloured tape or wire wraps anyway, so whats it matter if 
you have to increase the lead yourself? 

> I'd appreciate knowing as much as possible before making the purchase. I've
> got a few sites marked for this operation, but any additional help would be
> good. What wattage should I get? What PC board type should the case be made

Doesn't matter, I seem to remember the Beige DT I have using a 200watt 
supply, so no matter what you're going to get something with enough snot. 
DOn't fall into the assumption you need a 4000 gigawatt ultra quiet super 
shielded mega-supply (pat pend) just because the PC kids with their 
0280723 fans and 20832 hard drives and blingin' lights say you do.

Anything in the 200-300 watt range would be more than ample.

> for? Anything else anyone wants to mention will help. I don't get the deal

The G3 isn't as much as a space heater as the later x86 CPUs, but since 
you're pulling it all from your engineered-for-perfection beige case and 
slapping it into your engineered-for-cheap-compatibiliy PC case you will 
have to buy a fan for the heatsink.

A pentium (not P2, P3, or anything else, but old pentium) style heatsink 
should fit over top and not snap off hte retainers on the gossamer board. 
If you're concerned, just find a way to retain the fan from a pentium 
style heatsink to the already existing G3 heatsink or the motherboard 
itself (on one of the beige boards I snapped the retaining clips off of, I 
just use a couple of elastic bands stretched over the sink to secure it to 
the socket, yeah, its ghetto, but it works). If you swap the heat sink, 
invest the $2 for the little tube o' sillicon grease from Radioshack also. 
It will last you for life because the amount you put on is a wee, wee 
little drop.

> on using XPostFacto for a G3 board, I thought that X.3 would just load and
> run without any tricks needed? TIA

No native USB support, no 10.3 for you. Until you add in XPostFacto, and 
that's just the way it is.

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