On Jun 28, 2005, at 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 08:52 PM -0400 06/27/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 6/27/05 3:20:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Other factors (bus speed, disk IO etc, even the way graphics are programmed) have a lot to do with perceived speed. >>

Yeah, but its definitely my processor getting overwhelmed.


OS X is a piggy operating system. The Darwin kernel is fairly efficient, as *nix kernels go. But the crud that Apple has added on, Aqua and Quartz etc, is terribly inefficient.

That 'crud', as you put it, is why people use OS X over, say, Windows or Linux. And, truth be told, it's no more piggy than Windows or XWindows.

Apple's Java in OS X is a straight recompile/port of Java; it's no more or less inefficient than Java on any other officially supported platform.

johnson$ java -version
java version "1.4.2_07"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_07-215)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-50, mixed mode)

I use Java apps (DBVisualizer, and ImageJ) quite a bit on both Mac and PC platforms, they run about the same on equivalent hardware.

Java in OS 9 was an Apple rewrite of official Java. (also why it never progressed beyond 1.13)

So the 'guys running Xserves' bitching about Java are probably bitching about Apple's Java *apps* not Java, since all of the GUI admin tools on XServes are Java apps (which is why you can admin an XServe system equally well from a Mac, Windows or Linux box...)

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Bruce Johnson

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