From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:47 PM, david_elmo wrote:

From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:39 PM, david_elmo wrote:

From: David Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Guess I should have tried it before sending the last message. iCab
didn't work.  I also decided I'd try Firefox too but no luck there
either.  So still open to ideas...


A further thought to archiving transfer: you can get the pics! But
it is a manual job that you might not have the patience or skill
for... You open the archives in IE, you do what I said in last post
re saving the source file. You screen capture all the pics you want
and save them to disk.

Actually, screen capture's not necessary.

In *any* browser on OS X, including IE (I just tested it), you can
click-and hold on a picture in a web page and drag it out of the
program onto the desktop, or into a folder on the desktop. That way
you get the actual image, since web pages can display an image at a
percentage of it's original size.

Certainly, if this works yes! But as it happens, on the two tests I
just made from an IE archived file, it did not work. None of my pic
prgms would open any of the files. Sure they were from an archived
web IE file?

I opend a web page,

in? IE but we really need to do it in IE pre X (Honestly, it is news completely to me that there is an IE for X and beyond the 5.1. and what i just read suggested big trouble with it, quitting aand all unexpectedly)

in this case, MSN.com, made a web archive of it.
"7956AB5CE1984B44F995EED3B52.jpg"  (It's a picture from the depths of
MS'es web site)

I then opened the Web archive and dragged a picture to the desktop.

"7956AB5CE1984B44F995EED3B 2.jpg"

So yes, it does work and the pictures are properly labelled.

Well, hang on! Did you open them too in say Photoshop? (Not saying you did not, just that _this_ is the bit that failed for me from the archive). Plus, no inadvertant tricks going on? ie. you being online the url in the archive version is not connecting to a live server? I took trouble to get an archive that is no longer live matched.

What are the pictures called when you drag them to your desktop?

something.gif and somethingelse.jpg, normal looking pic icons (there was or is a clipping equiv for pics as for text, maybe fun and games here?) are a couple I tried and just tried yet again with same result (in IE classic 5 mind you, the OP would likely have used such when he archived ages back). Preview and other prgms can't recognise file format or says file is corrupt (no matter it appears fine in webpage). Get info says the thing is a gif or a jpg as one would expect. just a mo... I will try MacLinkPlus, always a down-the-queue resource...

(and, just as an aside, while we're talking about MicroCrap
programs...While I was writing the above, I got a notice that popped
up "Microsoft Word has just quit unexpectedly".

ALL it was doing was running. I had no file open, I wasn't working in
it, all it was doing was *sitting* there, running in the background.

What a POS.)

I never went beyond 5.1.6 for the reason that things were unstable for me with IE after that (I tried 5.1.7 in other words and went back)


If you want, send me one of the archives, and I'll see what it comes
out as.

On further testing, I have noticed that in some of my archived IE files I can open the pics when dragged! But not in others. I have no idea why. All this is in Tiger (in Classic). The process of opening up one of my own (well-made) web pages in IE, saving as web archive is very shaky (at least in Classic). First time I did latter just now, fine and I could drag and open pics. When I tried it again, the file looked for all the world an alias but was not (4K), blank icons etc. The whole process is fraught with instability, including opening long ago saved files archives. I think Classic cannot handle all this stuff well. We should boot into 9 for these tests.

Obviously, getting back to the OP, if he were to reconstruct the web pages so they would open in any modern browser at all, he would try your (Bruce) suggested drag/drop to obtain the pics. But if that failed, screen capture is the way to go, that being quite sure fire.

I can send you saved archives of mine that I cannot drag the pics off and then open them. If you can then it is a system fault on my machine...But it is not a simple matter as some have images that when dragged will open in IE when double clicked, some are pics that are links, some are javascript embedded, some I can open.... there is a whole mysterious world to explore here! Who has time! I will just send you one that I cannot open for your delectation and amusement...

David Elmo





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