On Dec 28, 6:19 am, Bill Christensen <billc_li...@greenbuilder.com>
wrote:
> ...
> I never said anything about defective hardware.   I said I ran "one
> of the diagnostic/repair tools on it, fix a bunch of stuff".  By that
> I was referring to SOFTWARE diagnostics and SOFTWARE fixes - Disk
> First Aid, Disk Warrior, Norton, whatever the heck we were using most
> at the time.  Nothing changed in the hardware set up at all.
>
> And I don't give a rat's patoot as to why the power company delivered
> crappy power.  I've seen the lights dim or momentarily go out often
> enough to know that it does.
> ...

  You are correct.  You did not say anything about defective hardware
in a computer that may have symptoms of existing defective hardware.
For example, if that computer has a defective power supply ($60
replacement cost), you somehow knew hardware damage was being averted
by installing a  $500+ UPS.  That is what you claimed.  You claimed
UPSes provide hardware protection because an $1800 UPS masked an
already existing defect.  That does not prove hardware protection.
That demonstrates that throwing $1800 at a $60 problem can mask
symptoms.

  A hardware defect still exists with or without that UPS.    Your
example also demonstrates why GM is losing so much money by making the
same mistakes that even Ross Perot defined 20 years earlier.  They too
throw massive money to cure symptoms rather than find, then fix,
trivial problems.  Bottom line - your example does not prove a UPS
protects hardware.  It only proves symptoms can be cured and that
multiple problems may still exist.

  More facts based only on assumptions. You have assumed the utility
is delivering crappy power.  More often, those symptoms are traceable
to a major safety defect; maybe inside that house.  IOW both computers
may have been a 'canary in a coalmine'.  Instead you would mock
investigating before fixing something?   Your speculations still do
not prove a UPS provides hardware protection.  And that is the point.
UPSes do not provide hardware protection despite so many assumptions
that say otherwise.

  A new fact.  Another computer was doing the same thing, but only in
that house.  You assumed crappy utility power.  The second computer
only works in their house?  More reasons to ask if a serious human
safety threat might exist in their house.  A problem easily located
with some basic knowledge, inspection, or by hiring an electrician.  A
problem that still exists even with an $1800 UPS.

  Get the household electric inspected.  The observation - computers
only crash in their house - is only sufficient to make an assumption
and to later develop a hypothesis.  Not sufficient to know anything
except that a problem (potentially serous) clearly does still exist.

  UPS does not provide hardware protection.  It simply protects a
computer from power off.  In this case, a UPS might have been used to
ignore a potential human safety problem.

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