Hi.
I'm doing ok with windows 8.1. I don't bother with the start screen
much, I just use the desktop, the start screen search box and pretty
much everything else. I don't run any metro apps hardly, when I do I
have to mess around with my screen settings since I like to keep my
computer outputting to a projector that isn't there to save energy.
Result being that the apps won't run until I fix my resolution, so I
have to switch back to my touch screen output. At first you think it's
less accessible because, if you're using JAWS anyway, you'll notice
things that the JAWS cursor won't read on 8.1 that it reads just fine on
the same window in windows 7. third party applications like live drive
desktop is what I'm talking about, not built in windows 8.1 applications
that would be designed different possibly. Take the same version of live
drive desktop and read the status window using the JAWS cursor on
windows 7, now take same version of exact same app and install that on
8.1 and try to read the status window with JAWS cursor again, same
version of jaws of course. You'll just be able to read the title of the
status window and nothing else. You think ug this sucks why did they
break it! But if you switch to the touch cursor in JAWS you can read it
just fine, and if you touch the screen if you have a touch screen it
works fine that way too. I encounter this in quite a few places, but the
touch cursor always works well enough, sometimes it's nicer than doing
it with the JAWS cursor.
One of my friends was talking to me, saying he was not liking something
about 8.1, when you copy files into some place that already has existing
files there, the dialogue asking if you want to overwrite etc isn't
accessible. Won't read with the jaws cursor and you can't tab through
the options. They were going to downgrade from 8.1 to windows 7 on a
brand new computer. I got on my netbook at the time my only 8.1
computer, I installed a demo of 8.1 using Winstaller on that old netbook
so I'd be learning about it. Anyway, I booted up my old netbook into my
demo windows 8.1 and tried that, and discovered that you can't read it
with the jaws cursor. You can, however, read them with the touch cursor
and, even better, you can leave it on pc cursor and just arrow between
the choices, tab doesn't work, but arrow keys do just fine and the
wording of the choices is really an improvement.
So you see things like that happen a lot. People just need a couple of
big problems and that ruins it for them. But the way around this is to
approach this in the kind of manner of, this is ok in windows 7, how
about I just assume they didn't completely break this and try for a
while to really find a solution. I'll just do anything I can think of.
There's got to be a way to make this work. And that has helped me find
solutions for me and my friends quite a few times, especially now that
my primary laptop is a Lenovo Yoga 2 pro that came with windows 8.1.
Folks complain about the start screen. Not me, I didn't use the start
menu in 7 unless I had to anyway. That search box is great, only
downside to how that is in 8.1 over 7 is it searches for a lot more
stuff by default and it's slower at coming up with search results. I
solved that problem by installing classic shell and just selecting to
use classic start menu, not classic explorer and classic IE I like how
those work in 8.1, don't need any modifications there. Then I noticed
that classic start menu's search box is sort of lousy it doesn't come up
with the same search results you'd expect from the 7 start menu, so if
it fails on me I just hit windows+q and type into that search box what I
want and that usually works fine.
That reminds me of another thing. Another friend was really disappointed
that he couldn't adjust his detail view settings in 8.1's file browser
(8.1's name for windows explorer). It took a while, but I figured out
that in the ribbon if you hit alt v to get to the view tab, then use
your tab key to find the views button dropdown grid, don't ask me what
that actually means, and hit said button, it exposes other options that
you can now tab through like add columns and such that gives you the
same abilities you expect in the view menu of explorer on windows 7.
Same goes for folder options, we knew we could go to folder options in
control panel, but in 8.1 you can't seem to find folder options in the
file manager, something you need to do if you want to modify folder
options, namely going in there to hit apply to all folders of this type
for making sure all music folders display the way the one you're
currently in is set to display for instance. Instead of just complaining
about it not being there, I went on a hunt for it, and finally managed
to find it, took a while but I got it. It's in the views tab of the
ribbon, it says something about options, gives a description for what
the whole group is for, then it says options split button. You hit that
and it gives you a vertical list of a whopping one item, change folder
and search options. You can reach it by pressing the alt key and
releasing it, then pressing and releasing v, then y, then enter. I'd
have found it quicker if I'd have slowed down and listened to everything
JAWS said before I pressed tab in there, I must have went through that
tab of the ribbon several times before I found it.
Cheers, Sent with thunderbird 17.0.8 portable
On 2/15/2014 7:18 PM, Josh wrote:
I really like windows7 personally. I had linux for a month or two and
went back to windows for the games and all the voices it offers and
screen reader choices, too.
using windows7 laptop
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