Hi Danielle, Yeah, the distro side of things can get pretty complicated pretty quickly. as I just said to Dark though, the production of an audio version is a few hours of work for anyone who has chops in that area. It doesn't have to be a huge involved project if the right people work on it.
Sure, I've no doubt that if you want to check out a game you'll just go do it, if you're reading about a new game and that info is coming through a synth it won't matter to you, but that's because you're not the target audience. You're already aware that games exist, you're used to finding new stuff to play and you're already using a computer for entertainment. This is aimed at newbies, people who probably haven't used a computer for much beyond word processing, so the more real-world gaming they can hear and the less computery the presentation is, the more likely they are to believe it's fun. The goal is for them to feel brave enough to fire up their dreaded computer and attempt to tackle something new isn't it. Scott On 6/27/15, Danielle Ledet <singingmywa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott I just don't feel it need be that complicated and involved. > Aren't games a fun activity and overall experience? I mean no one is > losing money and can't pay next months rent, having their reputations > ruined, or endangering themselves or their family and/or livelihood or > relationships damaged or endangered by playing a few audio games, are > they?After all we aren't charging anyone to pick up a Braile flyer or > audio CD. Do print if ya want but that to me defeats the purpose of > reaching erm targeting the very community who could benefit or might > take interest. By no means should it be sloppy but it shouldn't be > overly complicated and costly either. Remember, we have only a small > number of devs and they aren't making mad profits with a small > fraction of the blind population. Which is why I didn't include movie > trailers since that doesn't make or break the deal for me. If I wanna > play a game or have the possibility of doing so I will whether or not > an audio example or walkthrough is offered. Lastly I agree > wholeheartedly about the synth though if it were Volcalizer or > Eloquence it would be tolerable. Thanks Dark for taking this and > getting started. Thanks all for your input and if you prefer I'll > crawl back under my given rock. > > On 6/26/15, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> If we were to seriously go after a cd I think I can probably burn four at >> a >> >> time, but even then that'd still take quite a while. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 15:45 >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games >> (was >> >> info games game engines) >> >> You're seeing a whole lot of discussion and no action for two reasons: >> >> 1. Initial discussions such as these prevent fragmented action, which >> would be a waste of time and effort, especially for a project that >> relies on voluntary effort. >> >> 2. The discussion keeps getting derailed by people extolling the >> virtues of this format and griping against the inclusion of that >> format. It serves no purpose for anybody of course, but it'll carry on >> regardless, because people are apparently unwilling to accept well >> written explanations and practical examples of why what they're >> preaching about serves no purpose. >> >> On the audio CD front, even supposing you could inspire a few folks >> into narrating it, putting together game trailers to make it an >> engaging listen etc (which your last post was pretty far from doing), >> production is a big hurdle. Unlike printers, home burners are slow and >> notoriously dodgy. Beyond the burning and testing of each disk, >> there's packaging, labeling, and more expensive shipping to consider. >> The only solution I can vouch for is getting a pressing plant doing >> the leg work, the price of which depends on the numbers of disks >> you're pressing. In a nutshell, it's expensive for small runs, but the >> more you press the cheaper it gets per unit until eventually it breaks >> about even with the cost of doing it at home minus all the hassle. >> But, much as I think audio is the ideal format to get people inspired >> to play audio games, it's more work to produce and more expensive to >> distribute as hard copy, so I'd say it's a flawed idea to start with >> that. It's too early to tell whether this will happen or not, but if >> the discussion actually comes to something being circulated in written >> form and the community does start to grow as a result, I'd gladly put >> some hours into an audio version of the info and lean on a few >> pressing plants where I'm a repeat customer to get the price as low as >> possible to spread the word in the UK. Other people would need to >> handle other locations. There'd need to be actual distribution >> channels in place and evidence that the community is growing for me to >> go at it for free though. Should think most other people who make >> money from working with audio would hold out for similar, but who >> knows, maybe there's someone with skills and enthusiasm out there who >> doesn't pay their rent with this stuff. >> >> >> On 6/26/15, Danielle Ledet <singingmywa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Well, I find it less than pleasant that our own folks are quick to do >>> away with and shun Braille, like poof be gone, but oh the Gods up >>> above if we don't accommodate those large print readin' gods and >>> goddeses. What would it take for starters a whole afternoon or a few >>> days of one's time to burn them?Then, we'd get an idea of time and >>> have some way to gage cost of hiring a real professional. After all, >>> Newsreel and Pawtracks didn't start out sounding like RCA or Cash >>> Money or NLS studio quality. No one round hear is a stranger to elbow >>> grease and just getting it done especially in the face of challenges >>> and obstacles! Happy to do it!I realize some of us on heare do have >>> check-paying jobs so.... And some of us have access to and the >>> know-how to record a human reading so that it doesn't sound like a >>> classroom recording or home cassette. Though that's not me. I was just >>> trying to find a solid workable solution without counting out or >>> disrespecting anyone's preferences. The real problem I'm having hear >>> right now is a whole lotta talking and discussion and not enough >>> action. A whole lot of what-ifs and not enough working lets-sees. At >>> this point we have more than enough thrown out all options. Enough >>> with the excuses for this or that! >>> >>> On 6/26/15, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> An audio cd would be surprisingly difficult to make hundreds of copies >>>> of. >>>> You can probably get the disks for $50 (ish), but you can only burn >>>> them >>>> one >>>> >>>> at a time, and each and every one would take at least 10 minutes of >>>> active >>>> work by the person doing the burning. I'm not saying that it'd be >>>> impossible, but that making audio cds as a primary form of distribution >>>> for >>>> >>>> the entire leaflet is probably not our best idea. >>>> Further, there'd also be the fact of narration - I know a lot of people >>>> who >>>> >>>> would not want to listen to what is essentially a glorified >>>> advertisement >>>> done by synthesizer. Therefore, we'd have to have somebody narrate the >>>> whole >>>> >>>> thing (professionally, not some internal mic with background hiss), and >>>> then >>>> >>>> somebody to edit that narration. >>>> The idea of an audiogames cd has its own merits - if we wanted, we >>>> could >>>> put >>>> >>>> together trailors of a number of different games and distribute them on >>>> the >>>> >>>> cd along with our introduction, but I think that such a project is a >>>> bit >>>> beyond the scope of what we're currently considering. >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Danielle Ledet" <singingmywa...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 19:20 >>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games >>>> (was >>>> >>>> info games game engines) >>>> >>>> Braille and an audio CD. Simple. Large print readers are covered by an >>>> audio option. 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