Motion seconded. It really doesn't take long to tape a small portion of a game, and about the same amount of time to insert it into an audio file. I think the major difficulty would be making sure everything fits together and that narrators don't have huge amounts of tape hiss in their voices. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:58 To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games (was info games game engines)
Hi Dark, Well, production and distribution are two separate things. I can only speak for the production side of it with confidence really. If you or someone else were to record a narrated version of the text remotely, I reckon editing that, gathering a few gameplay clips, sequencing it all together and giving it a quick master would take an afternoon so long as the narrated version was well recorded in the first place. Any decent field recorder could handle it if the narrator is careful about placement and levels. At the end of that process, we'd have an electronic audio version that could be sent to any receptive organizations for them to distribute to interested parties. How well they'd handle that is out of our hands of course, but without a budget, that's probably as good as it's gonna get. In any case, assuming the promo text is non-specific enough to stand the test of time for a few years, it's an extra resource that the community didn't have before, and that can't be a bad thing. Scott On 6/27/15, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > Hi Scot. > > As I said, it's about alternatives. I fully agree a completely human > narrated version with audio gameplay clips and high production values > would > > be pretty dam awesome, however realistically is that possible? especially > with the distribution. > > Formatting in print and braille just takes, ---- well formatting the > document with headings and paragraphas, but what your talking here in > audio > > terms is tantamount to a full on audio production. If anyone wants to do > this and can arrange the cd burning that is fantastic, but I'm going on > what > > I know to be possible. > > As regards organizations and hard copies your likely correct, however > equally bare in mind in the Uk at least there are organizations dedicated > to > > producing braille material, for example prisons have a brailling service > that you can pay for, and while I do not know the rates for a charity such > as the audiogames.net game accessibility special interest group, it'd be > fairly easy to find out. I'd also suggest people in the Us and other > countries look into any brailling services that exist as well. > > After that we can get an idea of production costs and then see what money > is > > needed and how much people may or may not have to contribute to the > project. > > All the best, > > Dark. > There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is > vast > > and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even > the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] braille/large print/other media for audio games > (was > > info games game engines) > > >> Hi Dark, >> >> As usual, I respectfully disagree about some of that :) >> >> Granted, it would be much much simpler to send electronic content in >> to a bunch of organizations and let them handle production. The same >> could be said for the print and Braille versions. Tbh, I've got >> nothing at all against the idea of trying that first to keep the cost >> to a minimum. It might work, and then everyone's a winner. However, >> what I suspect you'll find is that unless you've got a personal >> connection with someone at each organization or someone there who >> already digs audio games, it's fairly likely that the electronic copy >> will get filed away somewhere and not distributed to the people they >> have contact with beyond an initial run. Before audio paid the bills >> here, I worked for a few charities, and saw this happen many times. It >> might not turn out to be practical for the community to produce hard >> copy, but if there's any way to make it so, I think that hard copy >> would stand a higher chance of reaching relevant people, because >> reclaiming cupboard space is often a higher priority than keeping the >> network drives tidy in many offices nowadays. A cynical view perhaps, >> but like I said, I've seen it happen enough to believe it. >> >> Two thoughts spring to mind about a synth narration. Firstly, we're >> coming at this as people who use a computer for hours each day. Most >> of us probably have a favourite synth that we're comfortable with, and >> most of us have probably reached a point where we naturally tune out >> the robot voice and just process the words it's churning out. That's >> not the mindset of people when they're less familiar with computers. >> Having crunched the numbers in previous jobs that had audio versions >> of newsletters that were narrated by synths, I can tell you that the >> response was pretty low and the dissatisfaction was pretty high. I >> used to work next to a chap who had plenty of people on his books that >> would prefer to call him every month to find out what was happening >> rather than listen to the newsletter, because the synth did nothing >> for them. Synths haven't gotten markedly better since, and our target >> audience seems likely to be of a similar mindset, so I suspect that >> even though it'd be easier, it'd be something of a waste of time to >> produce an audio version that wasn't narrated by an actual human. >> Secondly, can you imagine the debate surrounding choosing which synth? >> *shudders* >> >> Regarding trailers or at least some content specific to audio not >> being necessary, that seems akin to saying "well ok, we'll put out a >> print version, but we're not doing any formatting specific to that >> version, nothing to draw peoples attention to the takeaway points if >> they're skim reading". It just doesn't make sense for people not to >> hear some actual audio gaming taking place given that they're >> absorbing information in the perfect context when they're listening to >> a CD. It's like the sound version of that old saying about a picture >> being worth a thousand words isn't it. I like your writing style a lot >> and am looking forward to seeing what you cook up, but think this is a >> situation where hearing some well thought out snippets of game play >> with explanations would do more to get newbies excited than reading >> about it, no matter how well the content is written. >> >> Scott >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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