Well I not going to start a flame war, but. I'm talking about Standard Web
Server setup with all security.  The government and military use a Network
infostructor  setup, and they do got Windows and sometimes Mac in that
network for a good reason.  

Linux is so open source it's not hard to figure out how to hack.

And besides It's mainly the fact that Government and Military won't say they
got hacked.  It wouldn't flow in the news good.  Also they hire people to
hack there system so they can fix any problems and so forth big diff.  I'm
just saying windows is more secured out of the box the the other OS.

That's all I'm going to say on this matter.

Kuvvosh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Trouble
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:58 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.

If he did windows in 2 hours. Then I can tell you he never got into a 
linix system, because they are not as open as windows. Why do you 
think the government still uses unix and linix for all military 
bases. Because its the hardest to crack and easiest to trace you from.
over 90% of web sites are ran off linix or unix boxes, because of 
there safety factor.

At 09:19 PM 2/18/2008, you wrote:
>You said Linux?  Oh my, 5 minute hack is simple to do on a Linux system. .
.
>And no I don't hack. . .  But, I've seen somebody that hacked into a few
>systems, totally setup and supposed to be completely secured, and gues
what,
>he hacked the Mac in less then 3 mins, and linux 5 mins and windows took
>longer but he finally hacked it in 2 hours.  Mind you this was certified
>ITT's that set these suckers up.
>
>Best way to keep people hacking so easy is doing a multiple system network.
>I used to had my own set up a few years back, and hosted web sites for
>awhile.  But, I had people try to hack it.  Never could get past all the
>Security and fake doors I had.
>
>Orca setup I had it's the bomb.  Besides it's what Ebay uses.
>
>Kuvvosh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Thomas Ward
>Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:36 PM
>To: Andy Smith; Gamers Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games site and services down.
>
>Hi Andy,
>I don't want to say too much about how it was done, but I will just say
>the cracker managed to gain illegal access to the Linux root account,
>and then proceeded to rm -rf * everything in site including the backups.
>We have reinstalled most of the basic services, and I have spoken to
>Shane and he has made sure the security whole was fixed. At least we are
>sure the cracker won't gain entry through that whole again.
>As for the USA Games web site we are using a double backup polacy from
>now on. Shane will do daily backups of the server images, and I will be
>doing weekly backups of the USA Games home directory. That way just in
>case anything this horrible happens again there will be account backups
>in two places.
>
>Andy Smith wrote:
> > Well, looks like hackers don't care. How did the idiot get in in the
first
>place?
> >
>
>
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