Hi Dark, Oh, I see. Yeah, I vaguely remember the epasode you are talking about. Its a case of I know the epasode in question, but its been so long since I've seen it that it wouldn't have come to mind immediately.
Cheers! On 7/11/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > Hi Tom. > > I know skin of evil, but actually that was not the episode I was thinking > of, afterall you could argue that the original series did the same thing in > wrath of kaan where spok dies. > > I was actually thinking of an episode in I believe the 2nd or 3rd series > when warf takes an away mission down to an undergound cave on a planet with > unstable gasses. > > A gass leak kills a lady on his mission, and the rest of the episode > involves Warf feeling responsable sinse she was under his command, and > inviting her son to perform a Klingon ritual which symbolizes freeing her > soul and freeing them both of guilt for her too. > > As regards trek as a moral teacher, that's not something I'm quite as keen > on, sinse generally I find the solutions trek provides to these questions > are a bit instant and packaged. > > For instance, there is one school of thought that states without emotions we > would actually not be able to make value judgements at all, sinse our quick > apprehention of decisions, and our ability to decide betwene two equally > logically valid courses of action would not exist without emotions to > catagorize the world differently or change our perception. > > Clearly, this was not considdered when coming up with data, a supposedly > emotionless android who not only exhibits emotions like empathy and liking, > but even preference for leasure activities and seems to have a fully working > sense of judgement which appears based on more than logic, ---- eg when he > returned to the borg cube in best of both worlds to save Picard. > > While I love trek for it's picture of a positive human future as you > suggest, often I do feel it is not considdered enough to actually provide > lessons. > > then again remember I have been studdying philosophy for close to eleven > years now and my main subject is indeed ethics, so my viewing of something > like trek in terms of morality will probably be different to everybody > else's. > > I myself enjoy more the inresting conflicts and ideas trek throws up, and > watching the characters either succeed or fail at handling them. > > For instance look at the episode where the enterprise comes upon two > planets. The inhabitants of one believe they suffer from a desease and pay > huge somes to the other for a cure. their evidence is when they stop taking > the cure they feel terrible. However their society is failing as a result of > this, because the cure also effects their judgement. > > Picard gives them the cargo he found from the crashed freighter, thus giving > them what they wanted of the cure, but refuses to help repare their other > ships, recognizing that this is an untennable situation where the drug will > itself stop people from getting to the other world to obtain it, and the > manufacturers of the drug will then no longer be able to prophit from this > situation. > > This is what I mean by judgement and the sort of thing I find interesting to > watch, especially sinse not always are judgements so perfect and there are > occasions when even Picard makes the wrong decision. > > I must confess sometimes I do find startrek takes itself too seriously, > which is why i've always been a doctor who fan, sinse the stories can be so > eclectic, going from historical settings, to alien invasions or monster > horror, to some that actually have a surreal and comical aspect. > > then again as a slightly eclectic person myself this makees sense, and I do > stil enjoy trek series to watch and books to read even though I'll probably > never be as complete and total a trek fan as I am of dr. who or the works of > tolkien. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.