Hi Dark,

Oh, I see. Yeah, I vaguely remember the epasode you are talking about.
Its a case of I know the epasode in question, but its been so long
since I've seen it that it wouldn't have come to mind immediately.

Cheers!


On 7/11/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> I know skin of evil, but actually that was not the episode I was thinking
> of, afterall you could argue that the original series did the same thing in
> wrath of kaan where spok dies.
>
> I was actually thinking of an episode in I believe the 2nd or 3rd series
> when warf takes an away mission down to an undergound cave on a planet with
> unstable gasses.
>
> A gass leak kills a lady on his mission, and the rest of the episode
> involves Warf feeling responsable sinse she was under his command, and
> inviting her son to perform a Klingon ritual which symbolizes freeing her
> soul and freeing them both of guilt for her too.
>
> As regards trek as a moral teacher, that's not something I'm quite as keen
> on, sinse generally I find the solutions trek provides to these questions
> are a bit instant and packaged.
>
> For instance, there is one school of thought that states without emotions we
> would actually not be able to make value judgements at all, sinse our quick
> apprehention of decisions, and our ability to decide betwene two equally
> logically valid courses of action would not exist without emotions to
> catagorize the world differently or change our perception.
>
> Clearly, this was not considdered when coming up with data, a supposedly
> emotionless android who not only exhibits emotions like empathy and liking,
> but even preference for leasure activities and seems to have a fully working
> sense of judgement which appears based on more than logic, ---- eg when he
> returned to the borg cube in best of both worlds to save Picard.
>
> While I love trek for it's picture of a positive human future as you
> suggest, often I do feel it is not considdered enough to actually provide
> lessons.
>
> then again remember I have been studdying philosophy for close to eleven
> years now and my main subject is indeed ethics, so my viewing of something
> like trek in terms of morality will probably be different to everybody
> else's.
>
> I myself enjoy more the inresting conflicts and ideas trek throws up, and
> watching the characters either succeed or fail at handling them.
>
> For instance look at the episode where the enterprise comes upon two
> planets. The inhabitants of one believe they suffer from a desease and pay
> huge somes to the other for a cure. their evidence is when they stop taking
> the cure they feel terrible. However their society is failing as a result of
> this, because the cure also effects their judgement.
>
> Picard gives them the cargo he found from the crashed freighter, thus giving
> them what they wanted of the cure, but refuses to help repare their other
> ships, recognizing that this is an untennable situation where the drug will
> itself stop people from getting to the other world to obtain it, and the
> manufacturers of the drug will then no longer be able to prophit from this
> situation.
>
> This is what I mean by judgement and the sort of thing I find interesting to
> watch, especially sinse not always are judgements so perfect and there are
> occasions when even Picard makes the wrong decision.
>
> I must confess sometimes I do find startrek takes itself too seriously,
> which is why i've always been a doctor who fan, sinse the stories can be so
> eclectic, going from historical settings, to alien invasions or monster
> horror, to some that actually have a surreal and comical aspect.
>
> then again as a slightly eclectic person myself this makees sense, and I do
> stil enjoy trek series to watch and books to read even though I'll probably
> never be as complete and total a trek fan as I am of dr. who or the works of
> tolkien.
>
> Beware the grue!
>
> Dark.

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