Clement, you've just put into words something that's been on my mind for a while spacial awareness is a verylarge factor in modern fighting games especially now with the upgrades in sound. another example is in mk, i try to go the whole fight without using scorpion's spear as then it will help me get used to where the characters are on the screen without me having to rely on a move that brings them in close all the time. that's also another use for beginner mode, as it can help you gage hit distances based on where you are in relation to them.
i'm not sure how useful that was, and i'm certainly not claiming to be a fighting game expert, far from it. just giving my current experience. now there's a use for mobility that I bet wasn't thought of by the instructures. :D On 2/7/12, Clement Chou <chou.clem...@gmail.com> wrote: > Funny, because I find those combos quite easy to do. While I agree that the > sound gives you less information that lets you keep track of your opponent, > you have to do that in your head. If I start a match, I keep in mind exactly > what movements I make and approximately how far I am from the opponent. I > very rarely do jump-in cmbos, but one of my favorites which always works is > with one of the SF 4 AE characters, Yun. It's a jumping dive kick, which if > not blocked is followed up with two crouching light kicks, a crouching jab, > a standing medium punch followed by a lunge punch. It always works, and it's > because I can adequately orientate myself and keep my mind focussed on where > I am on the screen. Once I've done that, move properties become > second-nature. You learn not to combo unless you're sure that's going to > hit, and if I'm going to do a combo, I can miss the first punch, but sighted > people do that as well... it's no loss, as long as I don't continue the > combo or try to. I know many people who would keep going with the sequence, > which just gives me time to attack them from a distance. A lot of blind > people tend to do that, and I think that's the solution to what your problem > seems to be... if you miss the first punch, be smart about it and block. > Wait til you're sure you can hit an opponent. This is where your mobility > skills can come in handy, since although you aren't walking yourself, you > can use that and calculate what movement options both characters are making. > Hear your opponent trying to jump in at you, maybe start a combo? Uppercut > them out of the air. If you're opponent is dashing in towards you, use a > throw and get yourself out of that corner or you're dead. These are basic > concepts that sighted people use all the time, and while there is more > information to be had if you're sighted, that information is needless... I > can figure that out all in my head. If I watch an SSF 4 match online from > youtube, I can commentate what is going on, almost perfectly because I know > what they're doing based on what I hear. That's how detailed modern fighting > games are. > As to audio games... yes, the sounds are very clear. However, as I keep > saying, they're almost too clear. And most audo games have very few ins and > outs to learn... which is the problem. Most of them are so simple, and > there's nothing to figure out on your own because the game explains > everything to you. Take something like judgement day. In modern mainstream > scrolling shooters like time crisis 4, 1942 Joint Strike, the enemy > properties are not explained... and the way one tells is by harsh experience > based on how the enemy looks. The same should be the case... the fact that > helicopters take more hits should be left for the player to find out as a > mainstream game would do it. Or, when the game is released, that is what an > Faq would be good for, and that's precisely why there are no walkthroughs > for most audio games.. because they're so simple that one really doesn't > need one. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game accessibility was,Re: FINALLY! There is a Wii > game for the blind! > > >> Hi Clemment. >> >> I'm afraid having played fighting games visually, and also (after I'd >> heard about beat em ups sound access), turning off the monitor and trying >> them without I disagree on a sighted person learning move properties being >> >> identical to a blind person learning it's sound. >> >> When playing street fighter two, one combo I tried to learn was ryu's >> punch in the air, punch on the ground, jab dragon. >> >> It would be pretty obvious to me if I'd got the timing for the first punch >> >> wrong, sinse I'd see! that the opponent was too far away or too close. I'd >> >> be able to adjust my timing the next time I tried the combo, punch >> slightly earlier or later. >> >> This is because as you've said yourself, fighting games are not simply >> boppit style sequences of pressing buttons in a streight out rythm, but >> pressing buttons in accordance with the relative position of the two >> opponents on screen and what is happening with the engine, and it is >> easier access to that positional data, as well as knowing fairly instantly >> >> by looking what a move is supposed to do that makes the difference. >> >> yes, a sighted person still needs to practice when! a given move should be >> >> used, however this practice is made far easier by the fact that they have >> far more information to work with about the move itself when used, the >> relative positions of the characters etc. >> >> This is where audio games differ from mainstream games. in an audio game, >> all! in game information is presented only in an audio, and therefore >> accessible medium. You stil have to work to play the game, learn it's ins >> and outs etc, however all the information you need is there! in the game, >> the rest is practice. >> >> This is where mainstream games are lacking, sinse the information needed >> to play them is essentially visual in nature, and though sound can provide >> >> a guide to that information, it is at most a guide only, and not a true >> representation of that information. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> Dark. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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