Hi Allan,
As far as I am aware this is because there are over 300 members on the list, and when the list is in one of its heavier moments such free list providers can't process the high-traffic data easily enough to accommodate it, which means some people don't get the messages.
Regards,
Damien.




-----Original Message----- From: Allan Thompson
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:47 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

Hi,
Does it cost to use yahoo or google groups? I seem to recall the list got changed from one of these but I don't recall the reason why.

al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Ward
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick


 Hi Darren,

Well, there are a few good reasons for not increasing the message size to 20 KB.

 First, is financial. Whoever maintains the Audyssey domain, server,
 and list will have to pay for extra bandwidth being used by the list.
 The larger the messages the more bandwidth it will take for Mailman to
 post several copies of the same message. That cost will directly
 effect the guy who is paying for the Audyssey domain, bandwidth, etc.
 That happens to be Raul, but there has been discussion of turning the
 list over to me so I can just put it on the same service plan as my
 USA Games account. Therefore the cost would be my responsibility.

 Second, is that the larger the size of the messages the more time it
 will take Mailman to post that message to everyone on the list. I
 realise an extra 10 KB doesn't sound like much on the surface, but is
 actually quite a lot if you sit down and do the math.

 For example, let us say that 50 messages are posted to the list on a
 daily basis. At 10 KB that will equal something like 0.5 MB coming
 into Mailman. Now, Mailman has to copy and repost all 50 messages to
 300 list members which adds up to something like 150 MB in messages
 going out. Now, let's add an additional 10 KB of length to all 50
 messages and watch our output go  from 150 MB per day to 300 MB per
 day. That's something like 9 to 10 GB a month in messages alone.
 That's a dramatic increase that Mailman has to handle when we can cut
 that in half by limiting the message length to 10 KB.

 Finally,increasing the size doesn't resolve the initial problem being
 discussed here. Allen wanted to know if a message was rejected can he
 get his original message back. The answer is no, because the software
 doesn't support that option.  Therefore if a message is 21 KB in size
 and the maximum length is 20 KB someone is still likely to complain
 about the fact they lost their original message simply because he or
 she didn't trim the message in the first place. So increasing the
 length from 10 KB to 20 KB would not resolve the issue being discussed
 and would add additional problems for the list moderators and
 maintainers in the process.

 Cheers!



 On 8/18/12, Darren Harris <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> wrote:
 > Hi tom,
 >
> Then why not increase the msg size to 20kb instead of 10? This will help a
 > little perhaps?
 >

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