well its the loo here, and the bog.
My parents don't care for such a rood word but all the
youngies including me just use it, for one thing its shorter than
toilet and well whatever.
At 07:32 p.m. 7/09/2012 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Tom.
interesting, I actually didn't know in America "use the toilet"
would be considdered a vulgar expression. There are of course less
polite ways of referring to the toilet, such as the bog, the
crapper, the shithole, or in scotland the cludgy, but there is
nothing at all wrong with "toilet" at all, and if you did! refer to
it as say the lady's or the gents (short for gentlemen's sinse the
term mens room never existed here either), most people would assume
you were being overly dainty or trying to be specifically upper class.
Interestingly enough though, even in the British editions of harry
potter, Jk rowling still occasionally refers to "the bathroom"
though she also uses loo or toilet as well. I'm not sure if this was
either a picked up Americanism on her part, or because like a lot of
large institutions she imagined hogwarts having combined toilet and
bathroom facilities, though she never mentions there being a bath in
moaning murtle's toilet or there being a toilet in the prefect's
bathroom so on this I'm not sure.
As to the hole subject of sweets, I've seen! candy canes in American
programs, but what they taste like or are composed of I have no idea.
I suspect we do have soemthing similar to the sour patches you
mention, sinse we do have a lot of what we'd call jellies, such as
wine gums, harribo etc, some of which can be pretty sour and chewy,
though they wouldn't really be distinguished with a universal name
like sour patches.
Chocolate I can give you a hole discourse on sinse like coffee it's
something I''m a little serious about. I have no idea what Us
chocolate is like at all or what the differences are precisely, but
I do know a lot of Uk chocolate has far too little coco, ---
especially those manufactured mars, neslay, which is precisely why I
myself only tend to buy chocolate that has a whacking great coco
percentage and is usually german or swiss and bought from specialist shops.
I do know a lot of things in the Us contain a lot more corn syrup,
including things like bread and tomatoe ketchup, which thus makes
them often taste quite sweet to people who are used to the British
versions, ---- indeed a friend of mine who frequently goes to the
states for his job says this drives him absolutely up the wall,
buying a savory sandwich and finding it tastes to him like it's been
made with slices of cake rather than bread.
As to religion, well over here fundamentalism is much more the
exception than the rule and you would be thought of as rather nuts
if you had such beliefs, and probably avoided.
When I was attending church each week, the idea of the vicar
shouting at the congrigation, going on a wrant about hell and demons
or anything like that would be quite unthinkable, indeed outside of
bible readings I only ever remember "hell" being mentioned as
separation from god, or as a state of mind, and demons never mentioned at all.
likewise, the idea of someone actually condemning! others in a
religious service, ---- though it might happen with some
fundamentalist fringe groups would be very much frowned upon over here.
i think the statement about people not talking about religion is
slightly incorrect, or may be on the part of bias from the author,
though then again as a philosophy student I tend to find I get into
discussions with people about religion anyway. I will say though
that it's far less likely in such discussions to run into someone
who won't be to a degree accepting, though of course it does happen.
Just as in many parts of the world the British are thought of as up
tite, obsessed with tradition and incapable of showing emotion, over
here a common sterriotype about americans is that Americans are
loud, over emotional and do things to excess.
of course, this is a sterriotype and so not true of any individual
american, but just like some other sterriotypical beliefs about
nations, for instance that germans are very good at organizing or
that Japanese are very polite, there may be a grane of truth in such
beliefs as they apply to the over all spirit of a culture, just as
it is true that displays of emotion, or indeed affection are still
slightly discouraged in Britain, indeed when I studdied sartre's
theory of emotions which stated that inner states of emotions were
entirely characterized and subordinated to the outward actions of
the body, and of society's interactions with the body, the lecturer
noted that Sartre was of course french, where emotions were much
more physically expressed, and the idea of someone say feeling
intensive joy or disgust but not reacting physically would not be
one that would occur to Sartre.
Before however this gets too far into a social and existential
analysis I'd better stop as that deffinately! goes beyond the bounds
of what should be on the list, indeed perhaps we should discuss this
privately off list.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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