Oh well, what can I say?
"My grid is bigger than your grid" does come to mind though.

kind regards,

Richard

also will try to make the From/To patch in the next week.
Unfortunately I have to do other work too.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Martin Knoblauch
> Sent: 19 January 2007 10:22
> To: Grevis, Richard: IT (LDN); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net; Toy, Matthew: IT (LDN)
> Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] Query "From->To"
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
>  seems bankers still have money to burn :-) But your grid 
> description definitely sounds impressive.
> 
>  What kind of "HPC" do you perform on Windows?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Martin
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Re: fined grained data -
> > 
> > At our site we mostly set 5 or 10 second polls in gmetad,
> > and the same in the gmond confs. This was requested by our 
> users. And 
> > yes, we have adjusted our RRD configuration in gmetad.conf 
> to allow a 
> > few weeks of 5 second data.
> > 
> > Each of our ganglia severs handle up to 3000 hosts, although I once 
> > earlier had about 5,000 hosts on one servers. The monitored 
> hosts are 
> > almost all windows servers doing HPC.
> > 
> > The ONLY way that this is even remotely possible is by
> > 1) reducing the number of collected metrics to a bare
> >    essential minimum for HPC (cpu, network, and I/O).
> >    The cygwin agent is unable to give much more anyway.
> > 2) The RRD storage on servers of up to 100 gigabytes, is
> >    located on fast SAN storage. The sustained I/O has been up to
> >    20 gigabytes a second sometimes. And as we all know,
> >    RRD stands for "Rapid Ruination of Disks".
> > 
> > Why did users want such fine grained data? Well some groups wanted 
> > fine grained data to do "after the fact" forensics, some wanted 
> > immediacy to the graphs, some wanted to make sure that load 
> spikes did 
> > not disappear, and others didn't know what they wanted. But now our 
> > user base is experienced with ganglia, some are reducing their poll 
> > rate (Some users want capacity trending only, say).
> > 
> > Richard Grevis
> > Production Architecture
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> >  * richard.grevis
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > > Behalf Of Martin Knoblauch
> > > Sent: 16 January 2007 09:44
> > > To: Caleb Epstein; Grevis, Richard: IT (LDN)
> > > Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] Query "From->To"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Richard,
> > > 
> > >  I second the desire to have such a feature. But: where do
> > > you get the fine grained data for "past periods" from? You 
> > > need to add datapoints to the RRDs. How big are your 
> > > databases compared to the default ones?
> > > 
> > >  But yes - useful feature.
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > Martin
> > > --- Caleb Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > The changes have been useful to us internally here, 
> but our HPC
> > > > environment
> > > > > is not really like most of the HPC clusters in academia and
> > > > elsewhere,
> > > > > which means I am unsure of the likely level of 
> interest. Also a
> > > > change
> > > > > like the from/to mod may be too much of a change for people.
> > > > 
> > > > I've always wished for a feature like this, personally.  I think
> > it
> > > > would be a useful addition.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Caleb Epstein
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