On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Paolo Amoroso wrote: > Peter Seibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Something like that. It's all still somewhat vague in my head. FWIW, >> here are the problems I want the process to solve: > > I need some more feedback. Again, all questions below refer to the > "Fixing ASDF-INSTALLable packages" project, but I hope the discussion > will be useful also for other gardeners: > > http://wiki.alu.org/Fixing_ASDF-INSTALLable_packages > > >> So based on trying to solve those problems simultaneously I think >> something like what you outlined is a good start. Here's how I look >> at it: you are acting as the "champion" for this project. It's now up >> to you to define the problem that you are setting out to solve and >> explain what needs to be done and to recruit however other many other >> gardeners you think it'll take to at least start work. I think all of >> that can happen on the ALU Wiki. > > John Wiseman's list includes about 100 applications with ASDF-INSTALL > problems. If each gardener works on about 10 applications, about 10 > gardeners would be needed, especially considering that some problems > are present only on certain operating systems. > > Do you think it's better to have a single champion, possibly me, that > recruits other gardeners?
Yes. The key thing is for someone to take on the responsibility of keeping things perking along. Whether the champion is also the main technical contributor or not will depend on the project. > If so, I would ask all those willing to > contribute to add the lists of packages they plan to work on at the > ALU Wiki page, together with sketches of what work they propose to > do--something like my sample entry at the project page. That sounds like a good way to handle it. And as different packages are fixed, that should also be noted on the page so the rest of us can get a sense of the progress being made. >> Then when you think you've got the problem and the approach well >> defined you can submit it to the list where the "steering >> committee"[1] (need a better name for that) can vote Apache style on >> whether to "bless" it as an official CL Gardeners project. Assuming > > If you think that a single champion is appropriate, the next step > would be for him to submit a project request. Yes. I think basically whenever you have the Wiki page in a form that you think accurately describes the problem to be solved and the plan of attack and have enough volunteers signed up to be able to make at least a reasonable start, then send the url of the specific version of the Wiki page you want to use for your project request and the "steering committee" (Brad and me at the moment[1]) will vote on it. -Peter [1] Since the steering committee (still looking for a better name) is supposed to be the leaders of a "do-acracy", the best way to get elected to the committee (for folks who care about that sort of thing) is to work on projects, particularly as a project champion. The committee's role is to make sure that projects done under the CL Gardners banner will in fact make the Common Lisp garden greener and also have a reasonable chance of succeeding. Folks who've demonstrated that they can get things done are obviously the kinds of folks we want on the committee. -- Peter Seibel * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gigamonkeys Consulting * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/ Practical Common Lisp * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
