Ken and others,

I need to point out that our recruiting classes have been very good.  The 
problem is that we have lost several of those recruits over time.  If they had 
not been signed and if no one else was signed to replace them, those classes 
probably would not have been rated in the top 10.  It is scary to think about 
all of those several players we lost, not to mention last year's Heisman Trophy 
winner.  I wonder if Urban might have still been our coach if Cam had toughed 
it out and worked his way back.  With Cam, we may well have done much better 
Tim's last year as well as the next year.  

Also, I would also point out that we expected to lose these last two games when 
the season started.  I like our chances at Auburn even with our injuries.  I 
really like our chances at Georgia.  We all knew that October would be a 
difficult month.  When the season started, I think most would have been happy 
to go 2-4 in October.  Many thought we would go 0-4.    Had Brantley not been 
hurt, I believe we would have been favored for the Auburn and Georgia games.  
Auburn will be a severe challenge with our freshman QB.  It usually takes about 
3 games for a player to adjust to the speed of the college game, especially in 
the SEC.  I was impressed how well Jacoby did for his first game.  I actually 
thought that Jeff also did well for his unexpected playing against Alabama.  I 
think both may well shine in the future.

Jerry

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Subject: [gatortalk] What do we think now?

After two blowout losses, what is your perception of the program now?  Is this 
simply growing pains or is the coaching not getting the job done?  Can it 
really be that we are that far behind LSU and Bama in skill and player 
potential?

My thoughts are a combination, but I put most of the blame on the coaches.  UF 
has had top ten ranked recruiting classes the past five years, and the players 
we got were also considering the other good programs.  Or were the recruiting 
rankings really a mirage?  While the 2010 class was good and many of those 
players are starting or significantly contributing as sophomores, the 2007-2009 
classes look somewhat suspect in hindsight.

I understand that the players were recruited for the spread, but really, we 
wouldn't have been close to these two teams running the spread either.  Isn't 
it the coaches job to modify the system to fit the personnel?  Great we want to 
run the pro set I, but can't, so maybe we need to run a hybrid pro set spread.  
And don't get me started on strength, we don't even begin to match up.

My biggest concerns coming out of these two games regarding coaching are:
- bad play calling.  Yes I know Weis is a genius, but I think he outsmarts 
himself sometimes.  Last night, reverting to the spread, run Burton twice and 
then put the true freshman in to throw on 3rd and 13!  Was he channeling the 
dazzler?  Overall, I believe he is coaching like he is in the NFL.  Coach for 
field position, play conservatively and and wait for the other team to make 
mistakes.  Works in the no fun league due to parity, but not in college where 
there are too many mismatches week to week.  You have to be aggressive and keep 
the other team on it's heels.

- lack of fundamentals, particularly on defense.  Coach Dawg is defensive 
genius, but we can't seem to get lined up right, have too many penalties and 
for goodness sake can't tackle.  Big hits are fun, but if the guy with the balk 
doesn't go down, they are useless.

- composure.  From CD and his rants to the seemingly emotionless play on the 
field, we can't seem to find a good mix.  CD needs to tone down a bit (although 
two beat downs made him nit so demonstrative yesterday), the players need to 
amp it up a notch or two.  Once again, I think part of this is the NFL 
influence.  Our mantra of nameless faceless opponents and go out there with a 
professional, business like attitude. The college game is emotion based and 
thrives on rivalries, manage to that, don't shy away from it! 

I understand we have a lot of young players, but I also see older players who 
make plays hut don't get many opportunities like Gillisle.  If we don't start 
playing and coaching better, this will be a very long season.  I felt coming in 
8-4 was the baseline, and we can still reasonably do hat or better, but the way 
we are losing hurts.  Not being competitive sucks, I can handle a 14 point 
loss, being down 14 in the first 8 minutes doesn't make for a fun day.  

Ken K
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