Hi,

Jiufu Guo via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Segher Boessenkool <seg...@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 08:13:48PM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
>>> > Am 23.12.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Segher Boessenkool 
>>> > <seg...@kernel.crashing.org>:
>>> > There are at least six very different kinds of subreg:
>>> > 
>>> > 0) Lvalue subregs.  Most archs have no use for it, and it can be
>>> >   expressed much more clearly and cleanly always.
>>> > 1) Subregs of mem.  Do not use, deprecated.  When old reload goes away
>>> >   this will go away.
>>> > 2) Subregs of hard registers.  Do not use, there are much better ways to
>>> >   write subregs of a non-zero byte offset, and for zero offset this is
>>> >   non-canonical RTL.
>>> > 3) Bitcast subregs.  In principle they go from one mode to another mode
>>> >   of the same size (but read on).
>>> > 4) Paradoxical subregs.  A concept completely separate from the rest,
>>> >   different rules for everything, it has to be special cased almost
>>> >   everywhere, it would be better if it was a separate rtx_code imo.
>>> > 5) Finally, normal subregs, taking a contiguous span of bits from some
>>> >   value.
>>> > 
>>> > Now, it is invalid to have a subreg of a subreg, so a 3) of a 5) is
>>> > written as just one subreg, as you say.  And a 4) of a 5) is just
>>> > invalid afaics (and let's not talk about 0)..2) anymore :-) )
>>> > 
>>> >> Note whether targets actually support subreg operations needs to be 
>>> >> queried and I’m not sure how subreg with offset validation should work 
>>> >> there.
>>> > 
>>> > But 3) is always valid, no?  On pseudos
> I also has similar question: do we need to query/recog if "SF(SI#0)" is
> valid on the target, or it would always work (even through reload)?
> I also hit this during debugging on ppc64le: "SF(SI#0)" is valid,
> and "SF(DI#4)" is not valid. 
>>> 
>>> Yes, but it will eventually result in a spill/reload which is
>>> undesirable when we created this from CSE from a load.  So I think
>>> for CSE we do want to know whether a spill will definitely not
>>> occur.
>>
>> Does it cause reloads though?  On any sane backend?  If no movsf pattern
>> allows integer registers, can things work at all?
>>
>> Anyway, the normal way to test if some RTL is valid is to just generate
>> it (using validate_change) and then do apply_change_group, which then
>> cancels the changes if they do not work.  CSE already does some of
>> this.
> validate_change seems ok. Thanks!
>>
>> (I am doubtful doing any of this in CSE is a good idea fwiw).
> Understand your concern! Especially when we need to emit additional
> inns in CSE.
> While CSE does some similar work. It transforms
> "[sf:DI]=%x:DI; %y:DI=[sf:DI]" to "%y:DI=%x:DI".
> and "see if a MEM has already been loaded with a widening operation;
> if it has, we can use a subreg of that." (only for int modes).
> So, it may be acceptable to do this in CSE (maybe still seems
> hacking).

This maybe works for "DI to DF", because "mode converting
subreg:DF(x:DI,0)" is cheaper than "mem load DF([sf:DI])". Then
"y:DF=[sf:DI]" can be replaced by "y:DF=x:DI#0".

While for "subreg:SF(x:SI,0)", in CSE, it may not cheaper.
So, it may be doubtful for "convert DI to SF" in CSE.

Any comments or suggestions?


BR,
Jeff (Jiufu)

>
> Thanks for so great comments!
>
> BR,
> Jeff (Jiufu)
>
>>
>>
>> Segher

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