Just a quick question.

Since the FAANGs were the question, do you know if OSGeo has been vetted
and approved as a Foundation by any of the FAANGs?

As I say, when I was involved on the other side for one, they had more than
a 2 year lead time for that process (I don't know if that was universal or
if they solved that problem). If the answer is yes, then that could be a
way forward - and indeed in at least two of FAANGs that I know the
employees have virtual "pots" of both money and time that they can donate
to approved organisations to "give back" - so appealing to the grass
roots could be a way forward.

You might have to spin it as "promoting the value of Geo software to solve
world problems" or some such - since as I say paying for free software is
questionable legal territory.

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:00, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps we could ask some of these organizations to sponsor GDAL through
> https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo which is a recurring sponsorship ?
>
> Angelos
>
>
> On 1/14/21 12:58 AM, Howard Butler wrote:
>
> On Jan 13, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Nyall Dawson <nyall.daw...@gmail.com> 
> <nyall.daw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 06:24, David Strip <g...@stripfamily.net> 
> <g...@stripfamily.net> wrote:
>
> What is the path forward?  One path Howard suggests is establishing a 
> foundation similar to that behind Qgis. Another alternative, probably far 
> more controversial, is a license change.
>
> I'm pretty clueless regarding licenses -- but this is an interesting
> thought. I wonder if any new drivers added to GDAL could be done with
> a dual-licensing under both GPL + some other license which requires
> ongoing sponsorship of the GDAL project?
>
> License monkey business isn't viable in any way with GDAL. It would just 
> create confusion and erode trust, which we can't get back if broken.
>
> The big organizations running 100,000,000s of CPU hours extracting 
> information from imagery they're reading in COGs with GDAL need to be 
> donating substantial resources into an organization that provides 
> coordination. The last time I did a fund raise with gdalbarn.com 
> <http://gdalbarn.com/> <http://gdalbarn.com/> I was called out for naming 
> some of these organizations and expressing my disappointment they couldn't 
> find a way to participate or simply ignored the request.  Maybe they will 
> step forward this time around.
>
> Whether it is in a new foundation or an existing one like NumFocus, 
> substantial resources need to be dumped in a pot that are earmarked for 
> supporting work that generates value for the project. Chasing new feature 
> work to subsidize project maintenance activities is not sustainable in two 
> directions – burn out for the maintainer and creeping feature-itis for the 
> project.
>
> It's clear what's happened in the past is a combination of luck and 
> graciousness by both Frank and Even.
>
> Howard
>
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