I am a lurker here and get a ton of good information and helpful tips from 
this mailing list.  However, I regularly notice that Alexander is rude and 
often replies towards people in a condescending or hostile manner.  It 
isn't just here either as I see it on StackOverflow on occasion.  It's not 
a good look when I can read a reply and guess who it is based off the tone 
of the reply.  

Geb is an awesome framework that not many know about in my experience.  I 
try to share it with whomever I can as a test automation solution here in 
America.  While the documentation is very good and well worth a complete 
read-through, people shouldn't have to be afraid to come and ask questions 
only to get called out or receive rude replies.  Isn't the point of this 
mailing list a place to ask questions and receive updates regarding the 
framework?  So he might have asked a few basic questions that may or may 
not be in the documentation, so what?  Many of us here were QA first and 
automation developers second.  Not all of us are full-stack developers and 
we learn enough to get us by.  

Let's please be a welcome community and offer help to those who ask.  We 
want people to use this framework.  I want people to use this framework.  
People aren't going to want to use it if they learn that asking questions 
might get them yelled at.

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 2:57:06 AM UTC-5, Alexander Kriegisch 
wrote:
>
> You clearly have not read the relevant parts of the documentation (BTW, 
> how do you decide what is relevant before knowing anything about a new 
> tool?) and I am not sure if you even tried to run tests via Gradle or 
> Maven before asking your question. Maybe you could just try first next 
> time and then start asking questions if you encounter any problems 
> instead of doing feature checks on a mailing list because you are too 
> lazy to try. 
>
> BTW, are you aware of the fact that you can download a ZIP archive of 
> any branch, tag or commit you navigate to from GitHub? No need to clone. 
> No need for lame excuses either, excuse my French. You are a developer, 
> behave like one. 
> -- 
> Alexander Kriegisch 
> https://scrum-master.de 
>
>
> Ben Frey schrieb am 12.10.2019 02:57 (GMT +02:00): 
> > 
> > I am a new user, and I do read (the relevant parts of) the documentation 
> > before asking a question here. Unfortunately, I am not able to pull from 
> > external sites at work, so forking a project to play with isn't 
> possible. 
> > 
> > On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 11:49:54 PM UTC, Trinidad Esparza wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Ben, 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I notice you are a new user, I recommend you to read all the 
> >> documentation <https://gebish.org/manual/current/> and 
> >> also you can fork the example projects to get started. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- 
> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-maven> example-maven 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- 
> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-gradle> example-gradle 
> >> 
> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- 
> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-cucumber-jvm> 
> >> example-cucumber-jvm 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hopefully, this helps! 
> >> 
> >> 
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