Hi Marc,

Thanks for your email. I agree that Alexander has a tendency to be rude and
to reply in condescending or hostile manner not only on this mailing list
but also on Stack Overflow as you've noticed. One thing I'd like to make
clear is that Alexander is by no way associated with the project and that I
personally condemn responding to people's questions this way. As far as I
remember, I have tried privately suggesting to Alexander in the past that
his style is not appreciated and puts him in bad light but apparently my
well intended advice has been ignored. In my opinion, if you believe that
the person asking the question did not put enough effort before asking it
then it's best to just ignore it instead of sending emails like this.

To answer Ben's original question (hopefully he's still following this
thread even after how he's been treated) - Geb is a browser automation
framework and not a testing framework therefore it's not its responsibility
to generate JUnit XML reports. That responsibility lays with whatever tool
(Gradle, Maven or Ant, just to name a couple) is used to run the tests
(written using a test framework like JUnit, Spock or TestNG) which are
using Geb to drive a browser.

Cheers,
Marcin

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:04 PM Marc <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am a lurker here and get a ton of good information and helpful tips from
> this mailing list.  However, I regularly notice that Alexander is rude and
> often replies towards people in a condescending or hostile manner.  It
> isn't just here either as I see it on StackOverflow on occasion.  It's not
> a good look when I can read a reply and guess who it is based off the tone
> of the reply.
>
> Geb is an awesome framework that not many know about in my experience.  I
> try to share it with whomever I can as a test automation solution here in
> America.  While the documentation is very good and well worth a complete
> read-through, people shouldn't have to be afraid to come and ask questions
> only to get called out or receive rude replies.  Isn't the point of this
> mailing list a place to ask questions and receive updates regarding the
> framework?  So he might have asked a few basic questions that may or may
> not be in the documentation, so what?  Many of us here were QA first and
> automation developers second.  Not all of us are full-stack developers and
> we learn enough to get us by.
>
> Let's please be a welcome community and offer help to those who ask.  We
> want people to use this framework.  I want people to use this framework.
> People aren't going to want to use it if they learn that asking questions
> might get them yelled at.
>
> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 2:57:06 AM UTC-5, Alexander Kriegisch
> wrote:
>>
>> You clearly have not read the relevant parts of the documentation (BTW,
>> how do you decide what is relevant before knowing anything about a new
>> tool?) and I am not sure if you even tried to run tests via Gradle or
>> Maven before asking your question. Maybe you could just try first next
>> time and then start asking questions if you encounter any problems
>> instead of doing feature checks on a mailing list because you are too
>> lazy to try.
>>
>> BTW, are you aware of the fact that you can download a ZIP archive of
>> any branch, tag or commit you navigate to from GitHub? No need to clone.
>> No need for lame excuses either, excuse my French. You are a developer,
>> behave like one.
>> --
>> Alexander Kriegisch
>> https://scrum-master.de
>>
>>
>> Ben Frey schrieb am 12.10.2019 02:57 (GMT +02:00):
>> >
>> > I am a new user, and I do read (the relevant parts of) the
>> documentation
>> > before asking a question here. Unfortunately, I am not able to pull
>> from
>> > external sites at work, so forking a project to play with isn't
>> possible.
>> >
>> > On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 11:49:54 PM UTC, Trinidad Esparza wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ben,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I notice you are a new user, I recommend you to read all the
>> >> documentation <https://gebish.org/manual/current/> and
>> >> also you can fork the example projects to get started.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb-
>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-maven> example-maven
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb-
>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-gradle> example-gradle
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb-
>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-cucumber-jvm>
>> >> example-cucumber-jvm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hopefully, this helps!
>> >>
>> >>
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