Again, I would like to point that meta is a wiki and all of us have usernames there. So I would suggest all of you to *be bold *and correct what is not correct in your opinion. _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> (351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 1 February 2012 13:18, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Laura - Thanks for asking for more contributions. I was wondering what > was going on, since the project has seemed a bit quiet lately! Glad to know > it's catching steam again. I made some edits a few months ago to the US > section. (See comments below) > > > On 2/1/12 5:18 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > > Perhaps it would be helpful if you could add some explanation why you are > collecting this information, what you want to make clear. Because as I > explained before to you privately (and I see nothing has changed) at least > for the Netherlands the stats that have been put up are almost hilarious. > Lots of percentages, but every Dutch person will be able to tell you that > many of them are of no meaning (Ripuarian is not a language spoken at any > significant level in the Netherlands, Zealandic is considered mainly a > dialect and has 1 admin, of course there are no Dutch women in the enwiki > arbcom, because to my best knowledge there are no Dutch people in there at > all at this moment, and I would wonder why there are no Dutch female admins > on the Portuguese Wikinews...) I am not sure if it is just me, but reading > this page ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/FAQ/Perspectives/Netherlands ) > I would almost think that this is a parody of something - I can't tell if > it is the same in other countries. > > > I've also been highly confused by these statistics. It confused me so much > that I acted boldy and removed them from the United States section. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/FAQ/Perspectives#United_States > When I started to see information on how there were no Portuguese women > involved in Algerian Wikipedia I was like "why would there be? and is this > information here?" > > I rewrote the majority of the section to just discuss women's roles in the > United States - at WMF, as fellows, as researchers, as Wikimedians and > active editors, etc. I created a list of people who are active US > Wikimedians who are known to be women (didn't want to make assumptions > about anyone) and some of the cool things they've been doing. Of course, > these are limited to people I know, so I hope others are added (as someone > did me). I also removed the "US related on Wikipedia" in regards to the > subject matter (which was added back). I wasn't really sure why netball > would be featured because it's not popular in America at all, so to me it > doesn't really tell us anything, but it's not popular. Same with roller > derby. (But other women's sports aren't discussed?) So I guess if someone > has interest in discussing American women's sports, this area has room for > expansion, or IMHO removal. And the list of popular biographies makes sense > - Amy Winehouse died when this data was retrieved and I'm sure her > popularity has been replaced. And it's no surprise that "someone from > Barbados" is in the top 10 - it's Rhianna, and same for Nicki Minaj (two of > the most famous pop stars in the world, at least in the US.) I just don't' > think this shows much about women who contribute to Wikipedia except that > people of all genders like reading articles about pop stars and media > frenzies. > > I'm more curious about how women are active and what women are doing. Who > are planning events, have those been successes? Are people being hired by > Wiki companies? (Not just Wikimedia.) What is participation like regarding > women and other Wiki websites? (This conference is about that right, not > just Wikimedia?). Sadly I can't gather data on those, nor do I know how, > but it would be cool to know what the most popular Wiki's are for women and > so forth. > > > I am sure your intentions are good though, so perhaps it would be > helpful to state somewhere what kind of information you're looking for that > is *really* informative, and get rid of the non-relevant parts? I would say > that the semi-automated adding of information isn't exactly helpful in at > least the Dutch case - again, I can't vouch for other countries. Some > information *is* interesting (interest ratios on Facebook or other external > websites) and it would be a waste if that gets discarded because of the > irrelevance of the rest of the page. > > > +1. I think this has really cool potential to focus on "original research" > - just knowing who is doing what and sharing that information. I took the > time on the US section to not only celebrate who is doing what, but, > opportunities that women have been given in the movement in the US. I > wanted people to see what women were doing in the United States, not what > they *aren't* doing. We already know the statistics are depressing about > women's participating - so what are women doing to change that or to be a > part of that? > > Thanks Lodewijk and Srikanth for sharing your thoughts! I was beginning to > think I was the only person who had these thoughts! > > And thanks Laura for spearheading a unique and interesting opportunity to > learn more about women around the world in the community. I hope people be > bold and participate! > > Sarah > > -- > *Sarah Stierch* > *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* > >>Support the sharing of free knowledge around the world: donate > >>today<https://donate.wikimedia.org/> > << > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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