That was a "death of" article. I suspect there are articles that cover ISIS killing people, if they had only killed one person it might well be titled "death of". Since they seem keen to torture enslave or murder anyone who doesn't share their brand of Sunni Islam it would stretch our notability criteria to create separate articles for each of their victims. Similarly our 4.6 million articles only include individual articles for a small minority of the 13 million killed in the Nazi's murder programs.
Regards Jonathan Cardy > On 23 Dec 2014, at 05:45, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is Samira Salih al-Nuaimi notable? > > Just looking for an example of an article about someone notable for only one > event, here is an article on the Death of Ian Tomlinson, a newspaper vendor > who died during a London protest. Tomlinson's piece has been a featured > article, and as far as I know, no one has ever challenged his notability. > > Tomlinson article: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ian_Tomlinson > BLP policy--people notable for only one event: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29#People_notable_for_only_one_event > > Al-Nuaimi seems to be much more notable than that. The UN and the US > government have both issued official statements about al-Nuaimi's death. The > UN statement calls her a "well-known human rights lawyer and activist". > http://reliefweb.int/report/iraq/un-envoy-condemns-public-execution-human-rights-lawyer-ms-sameera-al-nuaimy-enar > > This NZ piece has more detail about the statements issued by UN officials, > apparently al-Nuaimi was running for office on the provincial council as > well. There is more detail about two other female politicians killed or > kidnapped, as well as five female political activists killed in Mosul, but no > other names. > http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/61509820/un-activist-publicly-executed-by-islamic-state.html > > And if you can get into some of the Arabic language sources, there is more > nuance: you can see there were statements issued by two different UN > officials, a statement issued by Prince Zeid Ra'ad Al Husssein, the High > Commissioner for Human rights, in a statement issued by the UNHCR in Geneva > and New York, and a statement by the Special Representative of the > Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq, Nikolay Mladenov. > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.elaph.com/Web/News/2014/9/943993.html&prev=search > > A google search for her name in Arabic turns up 138,000 results. Although > Google results numbers are highly inaccurate, you can see at a glance from > the URL's, this is not just a local personality, it has been widely reported > across the Arabic-speaking world. > https://www.google.com/search?q=%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A9+%D8%B5%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD+%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%8A&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > If you wanted to skirt the notability issue, you could always just do a quick > translation of the Italian piece, basically there is just a template so you > can credit the original sources. More information can be added to a > translated piece later. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation#How_to_translate > > But I don't see how she is not notable. I daresay if someone created an > article and it contained both a source, an internal link to another Wikipedia > article, and a category, no one would challenge it. This is exactly the kind > of information from the "global south" that the Foundation's official reports > keep saying is lacking from Wikipedia, that they want to do something about. > > Regards, > Neotarf > >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 22 December 2014 at 15:34, Leigh Honeywell <le...@hypatia.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It does not fall afoul of the meatpuppetry policy if the creator writes >>>> the article independently and using their own wording to create an >>>> appropriate article based on their own understanding and referencing to >>>> reliable sources. For example, this one could fall into several topics: >>>> Women and ISIS, biography of individual (although you'd have to show she >>>> was notable for a reason other than her execution), ISIS executions, etc. >>>> etc. >>> >>> Perhaps a stupid question but why is the coverage of her execution not >>> enough for notability? >> >> ISIS is executing people by the tens of thousands (many for reasons that >> seem astonishingly petty to outsiders), so being executed by ISIS does not >> confer notability in and of itself. >> >> What would confer notability would be reporting about her *before* her >> death, such as multiple significant references where she is a primary focus >> of a report about (for example) women human rights activists in her native >> country, or conferring of significant recognition such as a government or >> significant NGO human rights award. In other words, she needs to be notable >> *before* her death in order to cross the notability threshold. The BLP1E >> threshold still applies. >> >> (For those of you unfamiliar with the acronym, that means that a person >> notable for only one event will not normally have a biographical article, >> although some of the information (including the name of the individual) may >> well be notable enough for inclusion in another article. Example: Names of >> victims of mass murderers - their names might be included in the article >> about the murderer. This is also known as the "Badlydrawnjeff" Arbcom >> decision.) >> >> I've deliberately not been following the articles related to this topic in >> general, but I am quite certain, based on the significant reporting of this >> specific event and its contextualization in the media reports (particularly >> issues related to risks to educated women in Iraq), there's definitely a >> place for this information on Wikipedia, either in an article about the >> topic (identifying al-Nuaimi by name and event) or (if there is sufficient >> information) in an article about herself. >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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