On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 11:56 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

--On Tuesday, November 04, 2003 23:16:50 +0000 Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The biggest problem will occur with components that don't naturally fit a
group, or fit more than one. But having some kind of divide is going to be
necessary.

Sure. We need something, but remember that in a top-level project like this, all of the 'project' decisions occur within the PMC *not* the functional groupings. The functional groupings will not be responsible for oversight - that's the job of the PMC.

FWIW

i'd advocate impressing on the functional groupings the need for oversight.
i think that one of the problems with the jakarta model is that (with so many committers) a stepping stone is needed between committership and becoming a pmc member. many (but not all) jakarta sub-projects have far more liberal policies than httpd. IMHO it would be easier to increase the membership of the jakarta pmc to more acceptable levels if we'd previously asked senior committers to provide a secondary level of oversight. (of course, the responsibility would rest with the board.)


- robert



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