Not so fast Danny, There are some issues you are apparently unaware of.
I find it interesting that we would allow a JSR to be based on an ASF project to be licenses back under a non-opensource friendly license. I find it interesting that we sit quietly while this JSR is run under NDA to the severe detriment of the Jetspeed project (on which it is based). Its even more interesting that the TCK may not be available for Jetspeed! (Sun has chosen for this JSR to be under the JCP 2.1 process as opposed to 2.5). I was intrigued how my Microphone was cut during the "Independent look at the Java Community Process" (formerly "Why The JCP is better than Open Source"), when I attempted to query on this issue despite the objection of Jason Hunter. (I have witnesses) Its even more interesting that the ASF is allowing the "pluto.jar" to be checked in despite the questions on its license. I would like more information regarding the operation of the JSR-168 process; however, its under NDA. Presumably if those privy were to talk to me about it, as a member of the ASF, I'd probably be bound by said NDA. So I do feel that some concerns from those who question the independence of the ASF are justified even if they do prove to be off base and I think you're remiss to dismiss them scornfully without studying the issue in greater detail. I don't/didn't want to believe it, but there is some supporting evidence. Granted it may be an illusion, but there is not an overall appearance of propriety at the moment. I have other concerns that I cannot vent publicly as well. I do not plan to say more on this issue. -Andrew C. Oliver On 8/9/03 3:24 PM, "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> More on how close Sun/ASF are: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07802.html > > I think ASF and Sun voting the same way when the choice is Yes or No, is > pretty poor evidenc of a conspiracy. > What would you be saying if ASF and IBM had voted No, found a conspiracy > where IBM and ASF were ganing up on Sun? > > Get real. > > d. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
