Mmmm...some good ones there - I like manifold :)

On 8/30/10 1:23 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> It seems to me that the pivotal problem here is the word connector. On
> the one hand, it could mean almost anything to almost anyone. On the
> other hand, it has a specific denotation in the vicinity of httpd.
> Everything at Apache is in the vicinity of httpd.
> 
> I'd offer the following 'made-up' options, all following Apache:
> 
>   - manifold  (many connections)
>   - omnivore (eats anything)
>   - rapunzel (spins straw into gold)
>   - diogenes (seeking for something)
>   - lantern (ditto)
>   - helium (fuel for Solr)
> 
> The whole question of brand management strikes me as interesting: is
> it, in fact, the job of the incubator PMC to groom the Apache branding
> portfolio by guiding new projects towards better names? Is that in our
> charter, or should we, as Chris suggests, defer to someone else for
> problems in this area.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> If I may: since we're discussing marks, why not post to trademarks@ and ask 
>> Shane and crew to weigh in? Maybe you have already, but if so, I haven't 
>> seen that discussion mentioned over here on gene...@incubator.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/10 10:03 AM, "Grant Ignersoll" <gsing...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2010, at 12:15 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>> To try to illustrate my thinking rather than push a name down your throat...
>>> Open ConnectorFramework/OpenConnectorFramework/OpenCF  OK, since you've 
>>> added a branding word.  Not ideal since the purpose appears overly broad
>>> Content Connector Framework/ContentConnectorFramework/CCF OK, since you've 
>>> clarified the scope.  Not ideal since has no branding word.
>>> OpenContentConnectorFramework/OpenCCF better since it clarifies the scope 
>>> and includes a branding word.
>>
>> So, the word "open" somehow alleviates your concern?  I don't get that.  If 
>> your objection is that it comes across as being _the_ Apache connector 
>> library, then how does "Open" modulate that?  It's still the Apache Open 
>> Connector Framework.  It's still descriptive and still implies it's the one. 
>>  Besides, it's the ASF, isn't "Open" implied/redundant?  We would never have 
>> the Apache Closed Connector Framework, right?
>>
>> Likewise, the word Content implies the same "only" status, albeit here I 
>> will give you that it distinguishes it from Tomcat Connector somewhat, 
>> although the Tomcat Connector is just that, the Tomcat connector.  However, 
>> I still don't buy that it is a "branding" word.  Content is pretty much 
>> meaningless.  Everything is content.  I have no doubt that we could write a 
>> plugin for ACF that connected to Tomcat and got Content out of it.  Heck, we 
>> already do. It's called a web crawler.
>>
>> So, that leaves us, in my mind w/ the option of some made up name or we 
>> stick w/ ACF.  I'm all for a made up one if someone comes up with one, I 
>> just don't know what it is and no one in the community seems to have one 
>> either.  ACF fits and the community likes it.  It's not unprecedented at the 
>> ASF and I don't think it is confusing with Tomcat Connector.
>>
>> At any rate, the community would like some resolution.  Should I just call 
>> an official vote on ACF and if it loses then we will go back to the drawing 
>> board?
>>
>> -Grant
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