FYI- here's a link to the Harmony proposal: http://s.apache.org/KPG
----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 1:01:38 PM > Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 12:46:31 PM > > Subject: Re: OpenOffice: were are we now? > > > > > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > >>> > > >> > > >> I posted a similar statement yesterday. Personally, I think the traffic > > >> on this list has settled down a lot in the last 24 hours and is now > > >> focusing in on topics more relevant to this list. But maybe that is >just > > >> because it was Saturday :-) > > > > > > Most of the sniping^H^H^H^Hdiscussion has moved over to the libreoffice > > > lists at this point. > > > > > >> What I am still waiting to hear on are: > > >> 1. The amount of code in the project that the grant didn't give to us > > >> under the Apache License. > > > > > > Not a blocker for starting incubation. IOW we don't ask for this level >of > > > detail from other podlings. > > > > It might be a blocker for my vote. You are, of course, free to vote > >differently. > > This is a much larger project than usually enters the incubator. > > I'm thinking this project is on the order of scale that Harmony was. > If I'm off by a factor of at least 10 that might be worthwhile to know. > > > I'm worried that if the project has too much of this kind of work to > > deal with it will kill the community. > > > > > > > >> 2. The amount of work that will be required to rework dependencies. > > > > > > Not a blocker for starting incubation. Keep in mind that the podling may > > > elect to "release" via the libreoffice infrastructure, which gives them > > > the same flexibility wrt licensing issues that we gave to subversion > > > (which to this point has yet to cut a formal ASF release). > > > > Same as my point above. But your point is well taken that there may > > be other ways to achieve the end goal. If leveraging LibreOffice was > > going to be the way of doing releases initially then I might expect to > > see the proposal updated to indicate that there is agreement with that > > community to do that. In the end, to me this is just making sure the > > community doesn't have so many roadblocks that failure is very likely. > > My attitude is that OOo is coming to the ASF. Right now we have a grant, the > trademark paperwork will be sorted out, and a developer community is >"forming". > Until we have a podling in place, nothing else in the ASF is really equipped > to make timely decisions about OOo. There are lots of unknowns for the ASF > in dealing with OOo, but again we don't have any mechanism for dealing with > them until there's a podling to coordinate from. If in 6 months time the > podling decides to disband, or the IPMC disbands it by force, so be it. > > Personally I have no idea how my daily workload will be affected by dealing > with OOo's infra requirements. If it just means dishing out dedicated >resources > and setting up end-user services, that shouldn't present any issues. OTOH > staffing a forum with support service isn't something I'm equipped to deal >with. > Either way, I don't intend to block incubation over it- collectively infra > will learn to "cope" with the change. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
