One piece of advice I've been kicking myself for not offering more aggressively is this: ask for review before you bother to put up a candidate for a vote. It's a lot less work.
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: kafka-...@incubator.apache.org >>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM >>> Subject: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases >>> >>> Dear Apache members, >> >> [...] >> >>> 2. Different Apache members have different interpretations of the same rule. >>> It seems that there is no consensus on some of the basic rules even among >>> Apache members. For example, what constitutes a source distribution and >>> what should be put in the NOTICE file? Since all it takes is one negative >>> vote to block a release, this increases the turnover rate of RCs. >> >> NO. The only time someone can claim to hold a veto over a release vote is >> when they are jibberjabbering about legal issues. NOTICE errors really >> don't risk a lawsuit from anyone, so those -1's are NOT vetoes. > > +1 > >> (Now that I've written that, it's possible/probable that someone will offer >> you > > a different opinion. > > Sadly not today from me :-) > >> What you should do as an incubating participant >> is challenge any such opinions with a reference to supporting website >> documentation.) > > +1 > > Exceptional cases do turn up from time to time > >> Yes, I share your frustrations with the whole experience here in general. >> However, IME good and active mentors can mitigate a lot of the problems >> you face as a podling. Yes there will be times when we have to argue things >> out, but that aspect is one of the features of an org that tries to stay >> flexible and not overrely on an abundance of rules set a long time ago. > > +1 > > Robert > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
