Thanks a lot, Alex. I just wanted to get a better understanding of how Apache Flex relates to Flash Player, Tamarin, Adobe AIR, and your responses really helped me to get a better understanding of the proposal. All I have heard/read so far sounds very promising. I like the direction Adobe is taking with the proposal.
Raju 2011/12/21 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>: > Responses inline: > > > On 12/20/11 12:30 PM, "Raju Bitter" <rajubit...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> re-reading the proposal, a few other questions came to my mind: >> >> 1) Flash Player SDK >> What are you referring to, when listing the "Adobe Flash Player SDK" >> under "External Dependencies". The Adobe website says: >> http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_sdk/ >> "Sorry, page not available", and then: >>> As of October 1, 2007, the Macromedia® Flash® Player 7 SDK will no >>> longer be available. The migration path for the Flash Player 7 SDK >>> is Adobe® Flash Lite 3. >>> The Adobe Flash Lite 3 runtime provides mobile and consumer electronics >>> device manufacturers the ability to deliver the most engaging mobile >>> experiences across devices. >> Does the Flash Player SDK still exist as a product? > I guess not. The main thing we need is a file called playerglobal.swc which > is on the FlashPlayer downloads page. I had seen it referenced as the Flash > Player SDK at one time, but it looks like that is no longer true. I will > double-check and then update the proposal. >> >> 2) Action Script Virtual Machine (AVM) >> In November 2006 Adobe open source the Flash Player Script engine: >> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/press/mozilla-2006-11-07.html >> Is the source code of Tamarin still the current version of the Action >> Script Virtual Machine in Flash Player 11? If there is a new version of >> the AVM (2+), will that be contributed to the Apache Software Foundation >> as well? >> >> It doesn't really make sense to only contribute a compiler, if there is >> no open source implementation of a runtime/scripting engine available, >> but that might only be my personal view. If the community would decide >> to create a an open standards based runtime for Flex, would that mean >> the community would have to start from zero? > This proposal is about Adobe Flex which is separate from Tamarin. And > separate from the future of Tamarin. I cannot speak to anything related to > Tamarin. >> >> 3) Commercial support for Apache Flex >> Does Adobe plan to offer support for an Apache Flex product? If yes, >> what kind of support would be planned. I read somewhere that Adobe will >> not offer any support for Flex 4.6+ to new customers, but I'm not sure, >> if that's still the current plan. > Adobe is not currently planning to offer support for Flex released from > Apache, but that could change. >> >> 4) Flash Player >> Are there any plans to open source a stripped-down version of Flash >> Player, e.g. the discontinued version of Flash Player for mobile) in the >> future (similar to the pure open source Flex SDK vs. the commercial >> SDK)? The Apache community could continue working on a browser-based >> mobile runtime for Apache Flex, if that was the case. > This proposal is about Adobe Flex which, while it runs in the Flash Player, > is separate from the Flash Player. I cannot speak to any plans related to > the Flash Player. >> >> I hope I don't sound to skeptical here, but Adobe Flex is quite >> different from most Apache projects I've been in contact with. It's a >> powerful compiler with an interesting language, but it looks like the >> output of the compiler can only be used with Adobe-owned proprietary >> software at the moment. > This proposal is about Adobe Flex which in my mind is largely the > ActionScript source code that forms a framework that enables folks to easily > and quickly produce useful applications. The compiler source we are > donating in this proposal is actually being superceded by a whole new > compiler code base in a project at Adobe called Falcon that will likely be > donated to Apache later. Given that Tamarin is open source and the SWF file > format is public, I don't think there is much to stop someone else from > creating their own SWF player. So while the current reality is that these > SWFs only run in Adobe-owned players, I don't think there is a technical > reason for it. >> >> Raju >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I would like to propose Flex to be an Apache Incubator project. >>> >>> Here's a link to the proposal: >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Alex Harui >>> Flex SDK Team >>> Adobe Systems, Inc. >>> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Raju Bitter | Software Architect cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 email: rajubit...@googlemail.com Germany --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
