May I suggest bumping thoughts of cashiering the incubator to its own thread? It seems a much bigger question than whether to prevent vetoes on PPMC membership votes.
Don On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:21 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. <wr...@apache.org> wrote: > On 1/31/2012 5:05 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >> In replacement, I propose the following concrete actions: >> >> 1. Move the Incubator process/policy/documentation, etc., to ComDev - I >> agree with gstein on this. I think it could be maintained by the ASF >> community >> folks there, and updated over time. But it's not vastly or rapidly changing >> really >> anymore. >> >> 2. Discharge the Incubator PMC and the role of Incubator VP -- pat everyone >> on >> the back, go have a beer, watch the big game together, whatever. Call it a >> success, not a failure. >> >> 3. Suggest at the board level that an Incubation "process" still exists at >> Apache, >> in the same way that it exists today. New projects write a proposal, the >> proposal >> is VOTEd on by the board at the board's next monthly meeting, and those >> that cannot be are QUEUED for the next meeting, or VOTEd on during out of >> board inbetween time on board@. Refer those wanting to "Incubate" at Apache >> to the existing Incubator documentation maintained by the ComDev community. >> Tell them to ask questions there, about the process, about what to do, or if >> ideas make sense. But *not* to VOTE on whether they are accepted or not. > > Note that at the time the incubator was created, there was no particular > process. Projects entered the ASF helter-skelter, without really following > any template. > > Also, the legal committee was not a resource, comdev was not a resource, > trademarks was not a resource, press was not a resource. > > I think it's sort of silly to suggest that resource needs are completely > isolated to either incubating efforts, or TLP efforts. > > So the question is, what does the incubator provide today that should be > persisted as a resource to any incubating or full project? Obviously, > mentorship; but comdev seems like a really good home for that. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org