Hey Benson, On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> At the risk of seeming trite, +1, but ... > > This lengthy proposal shifts the supervision responsibility of > podlings from an big IPMC to a set of mentors approved by the board at > the advice of a small iPMC. Yea Bill's amendments keeping the VP Incubator and the small IPMC do, but I'd say, those aren't necessary, we don't need them. Looks like Bill and I pretty much agree on everything else, and reading ahead below, so do you for the most part? > In other words, a project is born when > three? foundation members, or others deemed appropriate by the small > iPMC, s/small IPMC/membership of the foundation/ > are constituted as a project by the board, with one (the > recently invented champion) as the chair. +1 > > It seems to me that this ups the ante quite a bit on the accidental > argument I started about mentor qualifications. The board absolutely > does not want to have to provide direct supervision all the podlings: It certainly makes your proposal about mentor qualifications important, yes. But I wouldn't say that the 2nd part naturally follows. Why wouldn't the board want to supervise podlings? IOW, what's the difference between ~100 Apache projects, versus ~150? We're going to grow to 150 some-day anyways and I bet we'll still have a board of 9 directors. > that's what the Board's formal feedback to the IPMC just now is about. > So, under this scheme, the particular mentors that make up the initial > PMC of a project are the ones the Board is trusting, and if any step > down, they absolutely need to be replaced. Yep that's true, Benson. > > I support proposing this structure to the Board, but I wouldn't be > terribly surprised if the answer is 'no'. We'll see, I've learned not to make predictions *grin* Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org